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Dear god Quantum of Solace is so boring

Too bad for Agent Strawberry Fields, but that other woman lived through QoS and that is progress for Craig's Bond (who then went and stopped that Quantum operative from manipulating another victim).

And I still have no idea why the evil plan is supposedly not that good, when the villains were going to fuck over millions of innocent people and destroy entire communities to make a fortune.

I loved the plan. It was subtle yet had dramatic effect. Like i said the last thread this was discussed, not everyone should have giant death lasers.

Yeah I really liked it. It was a step up from blowing up a plane to make a killing on the stock market, that's for sure! But not as ridiculous as having a giant "laser" in orbit...
 
CR took away all my doubt about how they were going to handle Craig's portrayal of bond. QoS, brought them right back. Connery, Moore, or Brosnan, could get through a less than stellar plot with personality and gadgets. Danny boy's version doesn't have that to fall back on.
 
I think the CraigNotBond folks are finally getting the last laugh. :shifty:

I thought they went way over the top when it was announced but I do see their point now.

M makes the point that any thug with a gun can kill, as if that separates Bond from just any old hitman, yet that is exactly how Bond is portrayed. He's just a one note thug.

Craig's Bond is miserable and dull.
 
Isn't the Craig Bond an attempt to do the James Bond of the original novels, like with Dalton?

Maybe, but the difference is, Dalton's movies were good. The current films, while not absolute shit, are not up to the standards of previous Bonds.
 
Good thing I didn't pay to watch Quantum Of Boredom, but instead saw it two days early .......... ahem. :p Got to say I saved the 50 dollars that night quite well!
 
I think the CraigNotBond folks are finally getting the last laugh. :shifty:

Speaking as someone who spent a year detesting the very thought of Daniel Craig being James Bond and bemoaning the fact that he'd be shite may I just say, whist neither of his Bond films are perfect, he continues to be the best thing about them, and whilst I'd like to see many things done differently in Bond 23, I have no problem with Craig holding onto his Licence to Kill for at least one more film, if not longer...and it seems pretty clear that the producers have no intention of replacing him in the near future.
 
Good thing I didn't pay to watch Quantum Of Boredom, but instead saw it two days early .......... ahem. :p Got to say I saved the 50 dollars that night quite well!

Why the hell would you spend $50 at a movie theater?

Admission for two in some areas can easily run $25 ... concessions can easily equal that, even if just for a large popcorn and two sodas.
 
I think the CraigNotBond folks are finally getting the last laugh. :shifty:

Please, those nutjobs? The only people getting the last laugh here are the ones who got a piece of the $586 million this movie made.
QoS did good because like most sequels its BOX was showing the confidence and overall enjoyment most still felt about Royale. You'll see a likely good drop for Bond 23 cause even more feel let down by QoS. That is why the CraignotBond folks will be having the last laugh.

I think the CraigNotBond folks are finally getting the last laugh. :shifty:

I thought they went way over the top when it was announced but I do see their point now.

M makes the point that any thug with a gun can kill, as if that separates Bond from just any old hitman, yet that is exactly how Bond is portrayed. He's just a one note thug.

Craig's Bond is miserable and dull.
Exactly. I don't even feel as excited about his Bond. I keep hoping Bourne will show up and kick his thuggish ass.

I think the CraigNotBond folks are finally getting the last laugh. :shifty:
I have no problem with Craig holding onto his Licence to Kill for at least one more film, if not longer.
He is signed for three minimum. Depending on how Bond 23 is received will determine if he gets Bond 24. Right now I think its tilting that the movie will have to show its going more BOND and less Bourne to really score well at the Box office with Craig as Bond in this direction.
 
I'm the guy in the old topic who loved Die Another Die (and Moonraker) and thinks giant lasers makes everything better, but even I rather like Craig. The idea of a gritty, realistic Bond was and still is a good idea. It's not Craig or the idea behind Quantum of Solace that caused the movie to suck; it was the execution. Gritty and realistic doesn't mean dull and lifeless. I think Craig should stay as Bond, but he needs a better writer/director.
 
He is signed for three minimum. Depending on how Bond 23 is received will determine if he gets Bond 24. Right now I think its tilting that the movie will have to show its going more BOND and less Bourne to really score well at the Box office with Craig as Bond in this direction.

Didn't they resign him after CR for at least 5 movies (including CR)?
 
QoS did good because like most sequels its BOX was showing the confidence and overall enjoyment most still felt about Royale. You'll see a likely good drop for Bond 23 cause even more feel let down by QoS. That is why the CraignotBond folks will be having the last laugh.

So what'll be your excuse when the next Bond movie makes more than $500 million worldwide, which it most certainly will? And how many Bond movies have to make more than $500 million before you admit that the CraigNotBond guys were wrong?
 
QoS did good because like most sequels its BOX was showing the confidence and overall enjoyment most still felt about Royale. You'll see a likely good drop for Bond 23 cause even more feel let down by QoS. That is why the CraignotBond folks will be having the last laugh.

So what'll be your excuse when the next Bond movie makes more than $500 million worldwide, which it most certainly will? And how many Bond movies have to make more than $500 million before you admit that the CraigNotBond guys were wrong?

Why box office success often does not equate to quality.

I don't think the problems with Bond's characterisation in his two films are Craig's fault, however.
 

I don't disagree at all, but Captain Craig was talking about the box office take, not the quality of the film:

Captain Craig said:
You'll see a likely good drop for Bond 23 cause even more feel let down by QoS. That is why the CraignotBond folks will be having the last laugh.

The idea that the next Bond film will bomb or even make significantly less money than Quantum of Solace is just plain silly. The CraigNotBond nutters can laugh all they want, meanwhile the studio and the filmmakers will be laughing themselves all the way to the bank.
 
Captain Craig said:
You'll see a likely good drop for Bond 23 cause even more feel let down by QoS. That is why the CraignotBond folks will be having the last laugh.

The idea that the next Bond film will bomb or even make significantly less money than Quantum of Solace is just plain silly. The CraigNotBond nutters can laugh all they want, meanwhile the studio and the filmmakers will be laughing themselves all the way to the bank.

What L2D said.

QoS has certainly divided the fanbase, but if the movie intake does drop for Bond 23, I doubt very much that the movie will flop. We are talking about James Bond here. Even the bad ones and the ones after the bad ones do great Box Office. If B23 is a good movie liked by many with good reviews, it'll have lasting power, like CR did after much distained Die Another Day (though, I personally liked it).
 
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