I'm a little confused. Was it implied that Wally was gay? I missed the second half of "Legends".
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I'm a little confused. Was it implied that Wally was gay? I missed the second half of "Legends".
No, these are just possibilities based upon the actor recently coming out and taking time to deal with the change. I figured Lonsdale might feel more comfortable with return experiences if his character were to come out as well.
Here's his response to that: https://twitter.com/KeiynanLonsdale/status/994730449908912128
Why would it be bad to do the same thing Supergirl did with Alex? It's not "negative," because it means Jesse was never right for him in the first place -- which is pretty much a character beat they've already done anyway.
Fair enough. I know Neil Patrick Harris gets a lot of praise for his portrayals of heterosexual characters. Some LGBTQ actors probably feel more comfortable playing LGBTQ characters (especially if they're only just now dealing with coming out in public). Others see it just as another role.
I just don't like that it would put his sexuality as the cause of his relationship failures. "Oh, that's why she left me, I'm gay..." It'd be nice if he could become more comfortable with who he is rather than having to second guess who he was so to speak.
In the way that it's more fun to watch Sara's romps than Alex's deal. I don't think it's wrong what they did with Alex on Supergirl and that's a side of what people deal with and it's worth depicting I just personally would rather they not go there with Wally.
I had no idea the actor was gay. As for making Wally gay I could see him going either way. On one hand you want representation but on the other hand you don't wanted to be pigeonholed as having your sexuality define the roles you play. I think that was one of the issue's Takei had when they made Kelvin Universe Sulu be gay. Almost playing it as a joke or saying that their is no difference between actor and character and if your gay it means you can only be seen as playing gay characters.
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That's totally the wrong way of looking at it, because it assumes that a hetero relationship is automatically "right" and a same-sex preference made it "wrong." It's the other way around -- being gay would be right for him and it was being with a woman that would've been the wrong choice for him to begin with. Realizing what his sexuality was meant to be all along would be a positive step, something that can lead to a better place moving forward, like with Alex and Maggie (before Floriana Lima's career choices required the writers to break up the couple).
It's not "second-guessing" a thing -- it's gaining a new insight, finally understanding the real reason it was a mistake all along. That is a positive and empowering thing -- like that moment of epiphany when you realize you've been trying something the wrong way this whole time and finally figure out how to make it work.
Which is sort of a valid point, except that it happened in a story where the heterosexual John Cho was playing Sulu. And really, Sulu's the only TOS regular who could be established as LGB, because he's the only one who never had a romantic subplot.
I'm not saying anything about a "hetero" relationship being automatically right. I'm saying I don't like his preferences having to be the reason that his relationships failed (not be "wrong"). That makes it sound like he carries the onus for the relationships failing due to him not being hetero. "If he had only been straight this would've worked out, too bad he was gay and didn't know it." Maybe that's the case sometimes but is it always? Is it that cut-and-dried? What if he's bi, or just more fluid or whatever?
That's just another way of saying the same thing. One more time: His preference would not be the problem. His prior failure to understand his preference would be the problem. Those are two entirely different things. It's not that he was wrong for the relationship, it's that the relationship was wrong for him, that it was an intrinsic mistake in the first place and never should have happened.
Think of it like, say, realizing that you've been putting the wrong kind of gas in your car all along and that's why it wasn't running right. Nobody would interpret the car itself as being the thing that was wrong in that situation. The car is what it needs to be; it's the gas that was wrong for it. Recognizing what was right for it all along is not "second-guessing" the car or saying the car is at fault.
Why did his relationships fail? You're suggesting because he didn't understand his preference.
I'm asking does that have to be why his relationship failed?
I'm asking does that have to be why his relationship failed?
You're still looking at it backward, treating the relationship as the fixed point and him as the problem. It's not that the relationship "failed." That's defining the question in the wrong way to begin with. It's that it was the wrong relationship to start with.
It seems to me you have the relationship being wrong as a fixed point.
What? I'm just saying that you've defined the question in a way that prejudices the answer unnecessarily. I only had to repeat myself because you wouldn't even try to listen to what I said in the first place. So just forget it.
I should just leave it at that but you think I reply that many times because I'm not even trying to listen? Obviously, we're not on the same page but why be insulting?
Did Wally and Jesse actually break up on the show/s? I know that he was on a quest to find himself but does that mean that he and Jesse actually broke up?
Yes, she dumped him way back in October, in the third episode of The Flash season 4. You know those holographic message cubes they use to communicate between dimensions? Jesse's breakup cube for Wally was the first one of those we saw. When Harry got kicked off Jesse's team and came back to Earth-1, he came bearing the breakup cube.
yeah she pretty much sent him to dumpsville saying that she wanted concentrate of crime fighting on her Earth iirc.
Trust me.
Just watch it.
I'm still not over Wally calling Vixen a "Basic Bitch" because of his loyalty to Nate.
If Wally was into Nate, that would explain the hatespeak on someone he doesn't even know?
Just watch it.
I'm still not over Wally calling Vixen a "Basic Bitch" because of his loyalty to Nate.
If Wally was into Nate, that would explain the hatespeak on someone he doesn't even know?
