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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 3

Well, based on what we've seen the listings of presidents so far, they only specifically mentioned: Washington, Grant, FDR, Eisenhower, JFK, Reagan, Brayden's predecessor and Brayden herself. It should be noted that in Grant's DC's Legends of Tomorrow appearance, they didn't ever mention him becoming POTUS.
 
One more week of Supergirl and then Legends are back on Mondays:

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There was a production delay on Supergirl. That was the real reason for Legends assuming it's time slot. That came officially from the head of the network. No explanation on what the cause of the delay is though. Only that it's not related to the firing of Andrew Kreisberg. I hope it's not a health issue with any of the cast.
 
There was a production delay on Supergirl. That was the real reason for Legends assuming it's time slot. That came officially from the head of the network. No explanation on what the cause of the delay is though. Only that it's not related to the firing of Andrew Kreisberg. I hope it's not a health issue with any of the cast.

Where would Legends have gone if there was no production delay?
 
This would still have happened to one of the DCW superhero shows, since Black Lightning was the fifth such series.

Bloomberg said:
Still, even such stalwarts as the CW are learning there are limits to what TV superheroes can sustain. There was much less competition six years ago, when “Arrow” made its debut, Pedowitz said, and now he won’t have more than four superhero shows on his air at any one time.

Bloomberg| The TV Superhero Glut Might Not Be Totally Invincible

The production problems of Supergirl just made it an easy choice.
 
Umm, the article you link to explicitly says "We had a moment where they had some production issues" and that was why they chose to postpone it for Legends.

Doesn't mean that there's any major problems that would lead to SG being shitcanned in favour of legends which is the weakest of the four multi-season shows.
 
Doesn't mean that there's any major problems that would lead to SG being shitcanned in favour of legends which is the weakest of the four multi-season shows.

Nobody said "major problems." Where are you getting that? They just said there was a bit of a delay which made it work out well to postpone Supergirl so they could finish Legends. Nothing more melodramatic than that.

And I think a lot of people would disagree about Legends being the weakest, especially this season.
 
I would put Legends above Arrow and Supergirl for enjoyment value. I prefer The Flash and (so far) Black Lightning, though.
 
Yeah, Legends have been great this season, and the previous one was really good too.

I don't get why people insist on reading something sinister into this decision, all of these shows will get renewed anyway and they have to be juggled into the schedule somehow... :shrug:
 
It still surprises me that Berlanti has basically been able to take over a whole network television station for his superhero shows.
 
This is the first Arroverse show I've managed to get caught up on, so I'll actually be able to watch it tonight.
I've been enjoying the season a lot so far, and I'm very curious to see what they're going to do with Constantine.
Tonight's episode:
Daddy Darkhest
After Sara's encounter with Mallus, the Legends are paid a visit by John Constantine, a demonologist detective. The Legends agree to accompany him to a present-day psychiatric hospital and they are surprised to see who Constantine is trying to help. During the exorcism, Sara, Leo, and Constantine go missing, leaving Ray and Zari to try to take care of Constantine's client. Meanwhile, Amaya and Nate once again come face to face with Kuasa.
 
The Legends agree to accompany him to a present-day psychiatric hospital and they are surprised to see who Constantine is trying to help.

From the title, it's probably the present-day, pre-adolescent Nora Darhk. And the demon could be Mallus.

To prepare for this, I rewatched Constantine on CW Seed last week. I was surprised to notice that episode 12 has something in it that coincidentally tied it to the Arrowverse even before it was folded in -- namely, the evil force in the episode is the result of "dark matter." It's portrayed a bit differently than it is on The Flash -- for instance, it interferes with illumination and causes lights to flicker -- but it's not irreconcilable, and it suggests some degree of overlap between supernatural forces and multiversal physics. Which makes sense, of course -- if magic is a real part of a universe, then it's part of that universe's basic laws as much as physical forces are. And there are aspects of the Speed Force that seem downright supernatural.

Coincidentally, episode 12 of Constantine also has another Arrowverse link -- a prop magazine called Science Showcase, a title that's also been seen in Arrow (the episode introducing Barry) and The Flash (the pilot). So contrary to what I'd believed, Constantine actually made the first connection to the Arrowverse before the Arrowverse retroactively absorbed it. Though I doubt it was meant as anything but an in-joke, or just someone grabbing a convenient leftover prop.

I'm still wondering if this 2-parter will tie off some of the loose ends from the NBC series.
 
- At the start if the episide I wondered if Sara would ever fall for another man. Then sure enough...

- Did they let go of Franz Drameh because if Garber's exit?
 
Hmm, I thought we were getting a 2-episode Constantine arc. I guess those reports were counting his cameo in the last episode.

Still no followup on dangling threads from Constantine, like the Rising Darkness, Manny's agenda, the status of Zed and Chas, etc. But we did get a couple of references -- they mentioned John's failure to save Astra in Newcastle, something that came up a lot in the show, and Constantine being damned as a result of it, something that was established in the pilot but not actually followed up on that much. Also, Constantine's magical circle had runes in Enochian, established in his show as the language of the angels. Meanwhile, they worked in a reference to something the NBC show wasn't as free to acknowledge -- Constantine's bisexuality.

They also brought in material from still another show, with Kuasa filling Amaya in on the backstory from Vixen. So Amaya basically now knows the full story of her future that she wasn't supposed to know, and now it sounds like she's agreed to help Kuasa change things and save their village. That could get complicated.

For that matter, bringing in Nora's childhood backstory and Damien Darhk's death from Arrow makes it three other shows being referenced. This was really quite the mashup. But even though they were in Star City, the coffee shop was pretty clearly a redress of the CC Jitters set from The Flash. When the chaos started, I briefly wondered if there was any chance Team Arrow might show up, but I guess they rarely operate in daylight.


- Did they let go of Franz Drameh because if Garber's exit?

Good question. I don't know, but I suspect that if Drameh had wanted to stay, it would've been easy enough to concoct a way to keep him around.
 
"Bloody 'ell, ya bloody wankuh." I only saw a couple of episodes of Constantine back when it first aired but Matt Ryan feels like someone exaggeratedly cosplaying a character rather than inhabiting a role. The unnatural blonde hair and perfectly unkempt shirt and undone tie don't help. I know he's a fan fave but I have trouble buying the character.

Despite how well done the demon possession scenes are done I'm not real crazy with this stuff in Legends, just doesn't feel right but we'll see as the story goes on. Some of the possession contortions were quite effective but it's a bit too Supernatural for me.

This might seem a bit odd but I really felt like the actress playing Nora would have done well being Cayden James' daughter if such a role existed. Something about her eyes and performance and with the recent episodes of Arrow I could just see it. Check it out and let me know if I'm onto something or just simply nuts...

Kind of weird seeing Sara with a guy after so many episodes of her flirting and scoring with women.

Good question. I don't know, but I suspect that if Drameh had wanted to stay, it would've been easy enough to concoct a way to keep him around.
They were getting tired of all the Drameh on the set.
 
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