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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 3

kirk55555 said:
I like how the article's title when you go to the link is written as

"Legends of Tomorrow: Courtney Ford to Recur as {Spoiler}'s Daughter"

but if you look at the url for the article it has the name of the father in it :lol:
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That's so typical of tvline.com to do that. They get hit on by that all the time. :lol:
 
I don't understand why they wouldn't just put it down as "spoiler" in the address.
 
dodge said:
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During the hiatus, Brandon Routh apparently forgot which part he plays on the show ;)
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no he didn't - the way they write 'Ray Palmer', I could see that character being scatterbrained enough to think he could lift a Jet's wing without his exo-suit. ;)
 
I saw that, I liked the character a lot, so this makes me very happy. I'm still holding out hope for a season focused entirely on the mystical side of the Arrowverse, with Constantine and Zattana as regular team members.
 
I still think it's amazing what the Arrowverse has pulled off -- not only building a whole multi-series universe encompassing live action and animation across two platforms, but effectively resurrecting a cancelled series from another network and retroactively incorporating it into their universe.

Although I do wonder how much they're able to use from the NBC series. The whole show is now on CW Seed, which would imply that The CW and Warner Bros. have full rights to it, and the Justice League Dark movie had both Matt Ryan and Jeremy Davies reprise their roles from the NBC series, though not in the same continuity. But so far, there's no indication that any of the NBC show's characters other than Constantine will be returning in the new webseries or Legends.
 
Matt Ryan's John Constantine is a huge win and for two episodes at that has me excited!
I may not even care how we resolve dinosaurs in downtown so long as we get to episodes 9&10 asap!
 
Christopher said:
I still think it's amazing what the Arrowverse has pulled off -- not only building a whole multi-series universe encompassing live action and animation across two platforms, but effectively resurrecting a cancelled series from another network and retroactively incorporating it into their universe.

Although I do wonder how much they're able to use from the NBC series. The whole show is now on CW Seed, which would imply that The CW and Warner Bros. have full rights to it, and the Justice League Dark movie had both Matt Ryan and Jeremy Davies reprise their roles from the NBC series, though not in the same continuity. But so far, there's no indication that any of the NBC show's characters other than Constantine will be returning in the new webseries or Legends.
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I've been wondering about that too. I can't remember, did his Arrow episode have any direct references to the Constantine series?
 
JD said:
I've been wondering about that too. I can't remember, did his Arrow episode have any direct references to the Constantine series?
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Some indirect allusions. From TV Tropes:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/ArrowS4E5Haunted
  • When John's face is shown for the first time, his show's theme music plays, and reoccurs through most of his scenes.
  • John mentions restoring a soul, likely the events of Episode Five of Constantine, where he and Papa Midnite did that after a voodoo ritual was distorted.
  • John gripes about angels trying to force him to do things, like Manny always did. Although there's a bit of a Continuity Snarl there.
  • John escapes handcuffs yet again, as he did when he met Jim "The Spectre" Corrigan.
  • The place where John stores mystical items is likely Jasper Winter's mill house from the series.
  • John's business card returns (he never got new ones made), and yes, the phone number still works.
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The "continuity snarl" reference is about the fact that Constantine said that in a flashback set years before the NBC series. But that show hinted that Manny wasn't the first angel he'd had dealings with.
 
Rip organizing a new Time Bureau makes sense, but why is it based in Star City in 2017? I mean, if history shows anything, it's that Star(ling) City in the 2010s is one of the most lawless, unstable, and frequently endangered cities in the world. And metatextually, the Time Bureau doesn't strike me as the sort of thing that would lend itself to Arrow crossovers.

Also, I wonder how much Rip's ideas for the Time Bureau's techniques were based on watching Men in Black on movie night aboard Gideon.

The Legends' post-Legends life situations don't seem to make that much sense to me. Okay, it sounds like Sarah, Ray, and Nate were all still operating as superheroes, but their day jobs didn't make a lot of sense. As I remarked in the Flash thread, I don't get why Nate and/or Firestorm didn't join Team Flash during the time that they were down a member. And surely Sarah and Ray would've been welcomed back onto Team Arrow, although I guess we don't know yet what their disposition has been since the island-shattering kaboom. (I also note that Stein wasn't one of the names Cisco dropped when mentioning people who'd helped him with his plan to get Barry out of the Speed Force.)

Speaking of post-Legends jobs, that tag scene with Amaya was unexpected. I didn't know she could do that with her ashe, summon several of them at once and have them operate as separate entities rather than gaining their abilities within herself. But it is reminiscent of some of the things we saw her granddaughter do in the animated Vixen. I suppose her skills have improved since we last saw her. Anyway, the implication was that she's gone down a darker path since returning home, but given that she's trying to fight off the atrocities of colonialism single-handedly, that escalation kinda seems justified.
 
I know LoT has been fun and silly before but I was finding it hard to get involved in this one. If the characters don't seem all that interested and invested in their own adventure it's hard for me to be as the viewer. If nothing else, everyone looked really spiffy with all their new haircuts though. :)
 
Mr. Adventure said:
I know LoT has been fun and silly before but I was finding it hard to get involved in this one. If the characters don't seem all that interested and invested in their own adventure it's hard for me to be as the viewer.
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I got the opposite sense. They weren't invested in their civilian lives because they so urgently craved a return to adventure.
 
I liked Sarah's quip about the Legends' motto should be "we screw things up for the better." That pretty much sums up the legends. They are total screw ups but somehow always manage to kinda fix things in the end. I actually found myself agreeing with Rip that the Time Bureau would be better suited for dealing with the temporal anachronisms. Of course, it was predictable that the Time Bureau would somehow mess up so that the Legends could save the day again, thus justifying that the Legends should be back in charge. But the show remains a total guilty pleasure of mine. It is ridiculously fun!
 
Given that the Legends have come to be defined as a team of renegades and screw-ups, it's promising to give them a group of stuffily competent authority figures to butt heads with. They had the Time Masters in season 1, but they turned out to be villains. It works better if it's just time vigilantes and time police, as it were.

Although it's interesting to contrast that with the situation on The Flash in the previous hour, where Kid Flash and Vibe were working as a close unit with Joe West and the CCPD.
 
Christopher said:
I got the opposite sense. They weren't invested in their civilian lives because they so urgently craved a return to adventure.
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I didn't mean their civilian lives. They put even less energy into that. Dumping Sara in a Bed, Bath and Beyond? Gee, I wonder how long that will last?
 
It was almost cringeworthy to watch the first 15 minutes, seeing the different characters with their post-Legends lives. The humor was forced (especially Ray and Sara not liking their daytime jobs), and it made me wonder if they hired new writers for this season. The Legends used the Julius Caesar anachronism to rectify the timeline as a means to prove to Rip Hunter and the Time Bureau that they could still do their job. Other than that, nothing much really happened.
 
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