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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

Fucking Zod learned to master his super-abilities in this movie faster than Kal-El did. Maybe Kal-El realized he couldn't stop him with speed, or strength or what ever. I dunno.

All I know is, Superman killed in Man Of Steel. It's also my favorite Superman movie, together with Superman Returns. I literally have no reason to justify this to anyone (we all know who we mean here) on a forum.

Agreed, and obviously, I believe Man of Steel (and the other Cavill appearances in the part) to be the greatest representation of the character ever put before a camera.

Sorry for stepping on precious childhood memories of people who grew up with the '78 Superman (I actually did, I'm 42 years old) but dear lord that movie is outdated and boring.

Oh, so very true. The Donner film's best scenes were the Krypton trial and Smallville.


@TREK_GOD_1 You and I have different opinions about many things, and we share opinions. How about we just let this entire topic rest and the both of us enjoy Man Of Steel and not bring it up here anymore? We'll both get more satisfaction out of it and tired old topics don't need to be rehashed.

I agree, so I will leave it with one last reply to:

Okay, which situations could that be? I mean, it's not like these characters are real, so... one can always choose not to write such a story.

Why would anyone not write such a story when dealing with superpowered villains Hell-bent on destroying most or all life and other uncompromising threats? You know, the way the Avengers (including Mr. Straight-Laced, Moral Captain America) actively tried to kill Thanos and his minions, instead of arrest or slap them on the wrist...

Situations dictate response.

I do not live in denial of that, or wish live action productions (attempting to relate to a real audience) to play like childproofed cartoons from the 1970s.


Well, the logical solution would've been: Stop the Death Star from blowing up Yavin 4. Maybe without destroying it and killing the people aboard that station? Maybe one could've taken them prisoner and showing them the error of their ways?

...and...

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Indeed.
 
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Well, the logical solution would've been: Stop the Death Star from blowing up Yavin 4. Maybe without destroying it and killing the people aboard that station? Maybe one could've taken them prisoner and showing them the error of their ways?

Or Lucas could have just written that destroying the reactor simply leaves the Death Star powerless and will force all its occupants to abandon ship.
 
Why would anyone not write such a story when dealing with superpowered villains and other uncompromising threats? You know, the way the Avengers actively tried to kill Thanos and his minions, instead of arrest or slap them on the wrist...

Situations dictate response.

Oh, they not only tried to kill Thanos and his minions. They did exactly that. And it was much deserved and gave the genocidal business-economist, that is Thanos, a taste of his own medicine.

The difference between Thanos and Zod is simple:
Thanos could not have been bested another way. Zod OTOH - there would've been different options, rather than just kill the dude. And no matter how much you want to say "hahaha, yeah, put hands before his eyes, eh?!" - yeah, that would've been an option. Or just knock him out, throw him into space - after all, Zod's fighting frakking Superman. And you want to tell me, that he had no other chance, than just snapping Zods neck? Nope, not buying it.

Same with Steppenwolf in the Snyder Cut - the supposed "better" version has Superman, Aquaman and Wonder Woman beating the crap out of the dude, punching him, stab him and beheading him. The solution in the Whedon cut - "showing his minions, that he is afraid, too" - is the better, more elegant option.

Plus - and that's just me: If a movie tends to take itself seriously, at least I tend to take everything about the flick seriously. And then I ask myself: Why don't the people of Smallville give a rats ass about the fact, that Clark - the man, they buried at the end of BVS - suddenly walks around again. And why doesn't no one put one and one together, noticing that Clark is alive again and Superman is alive again and therefore figuring out, that Superman is Clark?

In films, that don't take themselves seriously, I shrug the shoulders and say "Meh, who cares." - but if a flick is supposed to be a masterpiece, I think "Someone forgot about that plot-point, eh?"


Or Lucas could have just written that destroying the reactor simply leaves the Death Star powerless and will force all its occupants to abandon ship.

Would've been an option, too.
 
I asked because in Ost-Friesland in Germany it's quite normal to say moin as a greeting.
Indeed, indeed - I know that, 'cause I went to vacation in Ost-Friesland in my early formative years. Vacationing there was awesome. Nice, quiet, with friendly people - but I can imagine, that living there, needing to go to work etc. is a whole different kind of beast. In especially, if you live in those little, cute villages like Schillig, Horumersiel or Carolinensiel and you're not working in something, that you can do in these villages, but have to commute.
 
Indeed, indeed - I know that, 'cause I went to vacation in Ost-Friesland in my early formative years. Vacationing there was awesome. Nice, quiet, with friendly people - but I can imagine, that living there, needing to go to work etc. is a whole different kind of beast. In especially, if you live in those little, cute villages like Schillig, Horumersiel or Carolinensiel and you're not working in something, that you can do in these villages, but have to commute.

Oh absolutely. I visit Marienhafe quite often, and it is such a wonderful town to be. I feel quite at home there. But in terms of work, it's quite difficult to be able to both live and work there.
 
Bump! Quite a good interview with david Ayer here in which he talks about his Suicide Squad experience, his original script, studio interference and his hopes for a director’s cit
 
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That cut is not happening. There was a chance with the old regime but not now
He acknowledges that
And they’re trying to get their brand out, and James Gunn is rolling out Superman, so for them it’s a much bigger issue. They want to launch the new DC, and they have every right to do it unimpeded. They don’t want to start a negative conversation when they’re really trying to build up something new. And that’s fair, man. But would I love a screening? Just a screening, and let some film people see it? Yeah.
 
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