Dayton Ward & David Mack are re-watching TOS season 3 on the Tor blog
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Yeah I always liked this one a lot too. It's one of those that I always forget was season 3 because I remember liking it a lot.
"In the heart, in the head ... I won't stay dead. Next time I'll kill you! And it goes on and on while some ... thing ... sits back ... and ... LAUGHS!!!!"
Right up there with "KHAAAAAAAAN!!!!" as far as great Shatner deliveries!
As for the "agonizer" mirror universe connection - my "take" on the mirror universe as a young viewer (pre-TNG) was that the Mirror Universe Terran Empire was simply the human version of the Klingon Empire. And I always assumed the "Klingons" in the Mirror Universe (which we never saw) would be part of a peaceful, benevolent Federation.
So of course the Klingons would have agonizers just like the mirror universe terrans did.
Seems to me that, back in those days, it was assumed too that what we saw of the MU ship structure (assasination for promotion, etc) was showing us how things worked in the Klingon empire, as well.
Of course, lots of people have written about the MU (and Klingons!) since, for both TV and novels, and taken things in a different direction. Which is fine. But I always assumed that was the intent of the TOS writers.
Yeah I always liked this one a lot too. It's one of those that I always forget was season 3 because I remember liking it a lot.
"In the heart, in the head ... I won't stay dead. Next time I'll kill you! And it goes on and on while some ... thing ... sits back ... and ... LAUGHS!!!!"
Right up there with "KHAAAAAAAAN!!!!" as far as great Shatner deliveries!
As for the "agonizer" mirror universe connection - my "take" on the mirror universe as a young viewer (pre-TNG) was that the Mirror Universe Terran Empire was simply the human version of the Klingon Empire. And I always assumed the "Klingons" in the Mirror Universe (which we never saw) would be part of a peaceful, benevolent Federation.
So of course the Klingons would have agonizers just like the mirror universe terrans did.
Seems to me that, back in those days, it was assumed too that what we saw of the MU ship structure (assasination for promotion, etc) was showing us how things worked in the Klingon empire, as well.
Of course, lots of people have written about the MU (and Klingons!) since, for both TV and novels, and taken things in a different direction. Which is fine. But I always assumed that was the intent of the TOS writers.
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Ditto. I admit I found it very scary and disturbing as a child.
P.S. Thanks for the nice plug in the "Day of the Dove" recap!
Ditto. I admit I found it very scary and disturbing as a child.
P.S. Thanks for the nice plug in the "Day of the Dove" recap!
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The Klingons having MU agonizers never bothered me any more than the Klingon disruptors being modified Eminian disruptors, or the Romulan cloaking device being Nomad's head on top of Sargon's globe, plugged into a console from Landru's planet that later showed up on Elba II. It's TV. Stuff gets reused.
The Klingons having MU agonizers never bothered me any more than the Klingon disruptors being modified Eminian disruptors, or the Romulan cloaking device being Nomad's head on top of Sargon's globe, plugged into a console from Landru's planet that later showed up on Elba II. It's TV. Stuff gets reused.
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Another turn of the page-a-day calendar brings us once more to Thor’s day (or Thursday, for those of a more modern persuasion), and that can mean only one thing: a new installment of Tor.com’s weekly feature Star Trek Re-watch, by Dayton Ward and yours truly.
A combination of illness, travel, and a holiday kept me from promoting last week’s Re-watch column, so this week you get a double feature — and what an “odd couple” of episodes this is. Back to back, we find one of the original series’ most laughable entries followed by one of its most laudable.
First up is “For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky.” If you just couldn’t get enough of “The Paradise Syndrome” five weeks ago, then you’re in luck—most of that episode’s tropes (and effects shots) are recycled here for your viewing pleasure.
Then get ready to grab something heavy, because the next episode will blow you away: “The Tholian Web“ is far and away one of the finest hours in the 40-plus years of the Star Trek saga.
For you completists, here’s the list of my and Dayton’s contributions to the Star Trek Re-watch:
Go check ‘em out, and leave a comment over there to let us know you’re paying attention!
Another turn of the page-a-day calendar brings us once more to Thor’s day (or Thursday, for those of a more modern persuasion), and that can mean only one thing: a new installment of Tor.com’s weekly feature Star Trek Re-watch, by Dayton Ward and yours truly.
A combination of illness, travel, and a holiday kept me from promoting last week’s Re-watch column, so this week you get a double feature — and what an “odd couple” of episodes this is. Back to back, we find one of the original series’ most laughable entries followed by one of its most laudable.
First up is “For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky.” If you just couldn’t get enough of “The Paradise Syndrome” five weeks ago, then you’re in luck—most of that episode’s tropes (and effects shots) are recycled here for your viewing pleasure.
Then get ready to grab something heavy, because the next episode will blow you away: “The Tholian Web“ is far and away one of the finest hours in the 40-plus years of the Star Trek saga.
Go check ‘em out, and leave a comment over there to let us know you’re paying attention!
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Double helping! Thanks; those were entertaining, even if "The Tholian Web" was disturbingly light in mock-potential...
Double helping!
Thanks; those were entertaining, even if "The Tholian Web" was disturbingly light in mock-potential...
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Dave, thanks for the Ex Machina nod in the "World is Hollow" review.
Dave, thanks for the Ex Machina nod in the "World is Hollow" review.
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^ My pleasure, amigo.
^ My pleasure, amigo.
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Yeah, having these guys recap "The Tholian Web" is like watching "The Empire Strikes Back" on MST3K.
The worse the episode, the better the recap.
I guess that means we have a lot to look forward to next week. I am just glad you guys have to watch "Plato's Stepchildren" and not me!
Double helping!
Yeah, having these guys recap "The Tholian Web" is like watching "The Empire Strikes Back" on MST3K.
The worse the episode, the better the recap.
I guess that means we have a lot to look forward to next week. I am just glad you guys have to watch "Plato's Stepchildren" and not me!
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We’re back, Trek fans! Alas, it’s to bring you our Star Trek Re-watch recap and commentary on one of those episodes that most acolytes of The Great Bird of the Galaxy like to pretend didn’t happen: “Plato’s Stepchildren.” Yes, the one where a dwarf rides Kirk like a horse and Spock sings “Maiden Wine.”
I think Kirk’s expression in the photo below sums up our reaction perfectly:
Aw, go on, click the link and read the recap and analysis. You know you wanna. And in case you haven’t been keeping up, here’s the quick list of the weekly third-season recaps and analyses written by Dayton Ward and yours truly for the fine folks at TOR.COM —
Until next week, may all your meals be laced with kironide.
We’re back, Trek fans! Alas, it’s to bring you our Star Trek Re-watch recap and commentary on one of those episodes that most acolytes of The Great Bird of the Galaxy like to pretend didn’t happen: “Plato’s Stepchildren.” Yes, the one where a dwarf rides Kirk like a horse and Spock sings “Maiden Wine.”
I think Kirk’s expression in the photo below sums up our reaction perfectly:
Aw, go on, click the link and read the recap and analysis. You know you wanna. And in case you haven’t been keeping up, here’s the quick list of the weekly third-season recaps and analyses written by Dayton Ward and yours truly for the fine folks at TOR.COM —
- Spock’s Brain
- The Enterprise Incident
- The Paradise Syndrome
- And the Children Shall Lead
- Is There in Truth No Beauty?
- Spectre of the Gun
- Day of the Dove
- For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky
- The Tholian Web
Until next week, may all your meals be laced with kironide.
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Yup. That's probably the only way they could afford to use it, given the third season's tight budget. If a song's by someone they already have under contract, they don't need to shell out extra for the rights (assuming it's not in public domain).
Leonard Nimoy wrote Maiden Wine?
Yup. That's probably the only way they could afford to use it, given the third season's tight budget. If a song's by someone they already have under contract, they don't need to shell out extra for the rights (assuming it's not in public domain).
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So you guys inspired me to rewatch The Tholian Web with my 5 year old daughter.
So, the scene where they're discussing who is going to stay behind on the Defiant and who is going to beam back, she says, "What? Are they just going to stand there the whole episode?"
She needs to be doing these recaps instead of you guys, she's clearly better at it.
So you guys inspired me to rewatch The Tholian Web with my 5 year old daughter.
So, the scene where they're discussing who is going to stay behind on the Defiant and who is going to beam back, she says, "What? Are they just going to stand there the whole episode?"
She needs to be doing these recaps instead of you guys, she's clearly better at it.
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If today is Thursday, then this must be the Star Trek Re-watch! Over at TOR.COM, fellow Trek-nerd Dayton Ward and I sharpen our rhetorical knives and carve a few chunks out of the third-season original series episode “Wink of an Eye.” You remember: pretty people in silver pajamas, led by a gal in half a dress, who live in hyper-time and sound like mosquitoes.
I won’t lie to you, friends—this was not a highlight of the series. If you don’t believe me, you can watch it for free on the CBS website (U.S. residents only, sorry).
For those of you just joining our train wreck of a weekly column, here’s a recap of what Dayton and I have recapped and analyzed so far:
Until next week, beware of Scalosian blondes who slip roofies into your coffee.
If today is Thursday, then this must be the Star Trek Re-watch! Over at TOR.COM, fellow Trek-nerd Dayton Ward and I sharpen our rhetorical knives and carve a few chunks out of the third-season original series episode “Wink of an Eye.” You remember: pretty people in silver pajamas, led by a gal in half a dress, who live in hyper-time and sound like mosquitoes.
I won’t lie to you, friends—this was not a highlight of the series. If you don’t believe me, you can watch it for free on the CBS website (U.S. residents only, sorry).
For those of you just joining our train wreck of a weekly column, here’s a recap of what Dayton and I have recapped and analyzed so far:
- Spock’s Brain
- The Enterprise Incident
- The Paradise Syndrome
- And the Children Shall Lead
- Is There in Truth No Beauty?
- Spectre of the Gun
- Day of the Dove
- For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky
- The Tholian Web
- Plato’s Stepchildren
Until next week, beware of Scalosian blondes who slip roofies into your coffee.
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Don't know yet — but I like the idea of Re-watching TAS!
Don't know yet — but I like the idea of Re-watching TAS!
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^Interesting that this should come up now, since I've recently begun re-reading Alan Dean Foster's TAS novelizations.
^Interesting that this should come up now, since I've recently begun re-reading Alan Dean Foster's TAS novelizations.
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Has to be TAS or the movies. If you go from TOS season three to TNG seasons 1 and 2, you might forget that good Star Trek exists and decide to stop writing the novels.
Has to be TAS or the movies. If you go from TOS season three to TNG seasons 1 and 2, you might forget that good Star Trek exists and decide to stop writing the novels.
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Episode sucks. Good reviews.
Episode sucks. Good reviews.
