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Poll Daylight Savings Time
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They're examples of things that both suck and blow. They're also, frankly, dangerous.
Yeah, it's somewhat ironic that something originally designed for safety in mind, has become dangerous. It's especially dangerous on two-lane highways, which there are a lot of in my region.
In an odd coincidence the NHTSA announced today they are going to rewrite the rules about headlights to deal with glare concerns. The current rules are checked and enforced but, they predate LED headlights.
That's probably a good idea. I think Europe already has stricter guidelines on that, and it is a reason why newer vehicles have automatically dimming headlights via sensor technology, but not all manufacturers have adopted it in North America yet, from what I understand.
So permanent daylight time is coming to Ontario... sort of. Or, it's probably more appropriate to say that permanent daylight time is coming to part of Ontario.
While most of Ontario falls in the Eastern time zone, the westernmost part of the province actually falls in Central time:
So before Manitoba's recent change, the westernmost part of the province was always in sync with Manitoba. But now that Manitoba is going to be on permanent daylight time, from March to October, western Ontario will still be in sync with Manitoba (UTC-5), but between November to February, you have this weird situation where Manitoba is UTC-5, then when you move east into western Ontario, it changes to UTC-6, and then as you continue to move east further into Ontario, it changes back to UTC-5 again.
So the Ontario government has decided that to alleviate this situation, it will move the portion of Ontario that falls in the Central time zone, onto permanent daylight time. So that means it will always be in sync with Manitoba, but instead of always being one hour off from the rest of Ontario, it will now be one hour off between March to October, but will be the same time as the rest of Ontario between November to February.
According to the news article, moving to permanent daylight time had support in the region ranging from 90 to 94%, depending on the individual survey. Note that that part of the province is sparsely populated. I believe the largest city in the affected region is Kenora, which only has a population of about 15,000 people, according to Wikipedia.
So while I'm happy to see some part of the province move to permanent daylight time, I am disappointed that they didn't just adopt it province-wide.
www.ctvnews.ca
While most of Ontario falls in the Eastern time zone, the westernmost part of the province actually falls in Central time:
So before Manitoba's recent change, the westernmost part of the province was always in sync with Manitoba. But now that Manitoba is going to be on permanent daylight time, from March to October, western Ontario will still be in sync with Manitoba (UTC-5), but between November to February, you have this weird situation where Manitoba is UTC-5, then when you move east into western Ontario, it changes to UTC-6, and then as you continue to move east further into Ontario, it changes back to UTC-5 again.
So the Ontario government has decided that to alleviate this situation, it will move the portion of Ontario that falls in the Central time zone, onto permanent daylight time. So that means it will always be in sync with Manitoba, but instead of always being one hour off from the rest of Ontario, it will now be one hour off between March to October, but will be the same time as the rest of Ontario between November to February.
According to the news article, moving to permanent daylight time had support in the region ranging from 90 to 94%, depending on the individual survey. Note that that part of the province is sparsely populated. I believe the largest city in the affected region is Kenora, which only has a population of about 15,000 people, according to Wikipedia.
So while I'm happy to see some part of the province move to permanent daylight time, I am disappointed that they didn't just adopt it province-wide.
Ontario to move northwest regions to permanent daylight time
Ontario is set to move parts of the province's northwest region to permanent daylight time in order to align with Manitoba.
www.ctvnews.ca
Can't wait to Fall Back next month. 
We are in the time of the year where it is really hard to wake up in the morning. I set my alarm to 6:45 and it is still pitch black outside. I wonder what a permanent standard time would do to impact that, especially in the summer months at night. I love how it still is light close to 9 PM but if I can get more light in the morning, I can sacrifice that.
this sunday folks
till we turn the time back 1 hour
which means sunset around 5 pm and sun rise around 8 am
till we turn the time back 1 hour
which means sunset around 5 pm and sun rise around 8 am
Now we're getting interesting...
The newly-elected PQ government in Quebec has announced that they plan to table legislation in the next few months to end the twice-per-year time changes. Right now, they haven't made a decision on permanent daylight or permanent standard time, but will apparently be doing consultations in order to determine which one they're going to go with. But they did tell Quebec residents that this weekend should be the last time they have to "fall back" in the autumn... it just remains to be seen whether or not they will need to "spring forward" one last time next March.
So this sets up an interesting situation for Ontario in that both neighbouring provinces should be on fixed time by early next year, while most of Ontario will still be switching. According to the existing legislation, we will adopt permanent daylight time automatically only if both Quebec and New York do, and as far as I am aware, the US initiative is still held up in the senate. But if every other province from Quebec to BC is on fixed time, will the Ford government continue to hold out for New York, or will they just decide to make the move?
Stay tuned...
The newly-elected PQ government in Quebec has announced that they plan to table legislation in the next few months to end the twice-per-year time changes. Right now, they haven't made a decision on permanent daylight or permanent standard time, but will apparently be doing consultations in order to determine which one they're going to go with. But they did tell Quebec residents that this weekend should be the last time they have to "fall back" in the autumn... it just remains to be seen whether or not they will need to "spring forward" one last time next March.
So this sets up an interesting situation for Ontario in that both neighbouring provinces should be on fixed time by early next year, while most of Ontario will still be switching. According to the existing legislation, we will adopt permanent daylight time automatically only if both Quebec and New York do, and as far as I am aware, the US initiative is still held up in the senate. But if every other province from Quebec to BC is on fixed time, will the Ford government continue to hold out for New York, or will they just decide to make the move?
Stay tuned...
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Any consultation will be performative, as it has been everywhere else in the past few years. The overwhelming expert, evidence based consensus on the matter argues for standard time. It’s not even close. But public polling overwhelmingly favours saving time, including in Quebec. So there isn’t much mystery involved.
Being retired, I don't change the clocks that don't change automatically. The only time I set a clock, is if the power goes out and the time reverts to 0:00. Then it gets set to whatever time we happen to be in when it needs to be set. I have a microwave, bedroom clock, and the one above my computer all in Pacific Standard Time, the rest are in Daylight Saving Time, because they change automatically. I will also change the wrist watch I wear.
It's going to be interesting business wise starting Monday when the United States is on Standard Time and Canada is on daylight savings time.
Toronto and Ottawa will be on standard time, synced with NYC, as usual. Montreal, too.
yup
and i thought this year was gonna be the 1st year in earth 1 history where we do not have to change the time
The earth’s age is measured in billions. DST in decades. Just FYI.
I set all the clocks in the house back last night. Why we still even do this is beyond me...
Right now it's 8:30am in Seattle, and just over the border in Canada, Vancouver B.C. is 9:30am.
It's not nationwide, though.
