Day of the Dove
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this is how it was in my area too (Los Angeles, KTLA). It was very frustrating and disappointing.
Yes, the episode as aired in Indy followed a logical progression (and didn't cut straight from the opening credits to everyone brandishing swords in the Crew Lounge), but many great scenes were cut which really hurt this episode! The turbolift conversation which Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Chekov had traveling from the transporter room to the bridge was gone. (Aside: Roddenberry himself really liked such turbolift conversations which is why the movies and TNG didn't just have a transporter on the bridge.) And one of my favorite scenes was omited--Scotty finding a Claymore in the Ship's Armory!
Yeah, I noticed it too,how disappointing. It through me off a bit, but just for the moment.
Probably was REALLY confusing for those not familiar with the episode.
I watch it on KTLA in Los Angeles. I just could not believe the way they cut it. I mean how did they get off the planet? Why are they holding swords? I know the real answer to these but if someone were watching for the first time this would not have made any sense at all. I wanted to see how they blew up the Klingon ship in the new remastered edition. I guess they didn't!
That's very strange, because here in Washington we saw the whole episode (minus the usual cuts for syndication). We definitely saw the Klingon battlecruiser going kaboom and all of that. Sounds like there was some sort of weird editing glitch in the copy of the episode shown in L.A.
It must have been a screwup with the feed (and glad I'm not going insane because when I watched my DVRed copy it went right from opening credits/commercial to the swordfight in the briefing lounge; and the episode ended 10 minutes short - meaning that on the tape used for the sattelite feed, SOMEONE forgot to edit in a full act).
Also, if anyone is interested - KTLA seems to be doing a repeat on 1/14 at 4:00 AM (my DVR is set) - and since KTLA hasn't been doing TOS-R repeats I assume it's because they know they had a bad feed and are doing a 'make up' for the advertisers that were cut because there was a full act missing (and probably a commercial or two with it).
But - I wanted to see the re-do of the Klingon ship's destruction SFX; so I was like WTF!?!?
trevanian
Rear Admiral
The original version of the ship's destruction was one of my favorite fx in TOS, with the ship seeming to turn to milk; can't imagine how they could top that (especially since most of the fx 'improvements' I've caught have made the ships look less present and credible, not more.
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
Sulu: "Chekov doesn't have a brother. He's an only child."
Kirk: "How do you know?'
Sulu: "I once asked him 'got any cute brothers?'"
Cheap shot...but that's what I thought when Sulu said that.
What prevented them from beaming personnel from the sealed off areas, anyway?
Kirk: "How do you know?'
Sulu: "I once asked him 'got any cute brothers?'"
Cheap shot...but that's what I thought when Sulu said that.
What prevented them from beaming personnel from the sealed off areas, anyway?
Lazy writing.
Now now. Remember this ISN'T TNG. They even used inter-ship beaming in the episode to get Kirk to Engineering; but as Spock said:
"It has rarely been done because of the extreme danger. Pinpoint accuracy is need and if the coordinates are slightly off, one could find oneself materialized in a bulkhead..."
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
Why's there a bald guy sitting in the captain's chair then?
As opposed to the danger of being materialized into a planet's surface? And in DAY OF THE DOVE they would be beaming people from parts of the ship onto the transporter pad, which would seem safer than what Kirk did. Assuming they could get a lock on them, which the entity probably would've prevented or some shit.
ENTERPRISE did intership beaming decades earlier in CHOSEN REALM...yeah, that hardly counts.
Bah, now you've done it; my head's exploded.number6 said:
Where do you think Kirk got the idea?
Good points - which is, rather blatantly, why the writers came up with the idea that intraship transporting would be dangerous.
We might want to argue that the transporters have great difficulty focusing on targets that are closer than a few hundred meters from the pads. Planet to ship is fine, and beaming something in from the Botany Bay is still okay, but any distance shorter than that reduces the accuracy below Starfleet safety regulations.
...Clearly not enough to kill Kirk, but if they beamed 400 people that way, the odds would be against at least some of them.
And of course, the Pinwheel of Anger would prevent that from happening anyway, using whatever cheat was required.
Timo Saloniemi
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