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Day of the Dove Blooper

Makes one wonder if any of this footage still exists buried somewhere deep in the Paramount archives and could potentially be reincorporated into a future DVD/BluRay edit of the episode.
Because if there's one thing ``The Omega Glory'' really needs to be perfect, it's a cut-and-restored scene that would add complete gibberish to the Trek timeline.
 
Makes one wonder if any of this footage still exists buried somewhere deep in the Paramount archives and could potentially be reincorporated into a future DVD/BluRay edit of the episode.

Desilu and Paramount were happy to send all offcuts to Lincoln Enterprises, where diligent workers cut the film into clip frames, which fans bought by the handful to mount into slides.
 
Makes one wonder if any of this footage still exists buried somewhere deep in the Paramount archives and could potentially be reincorporated into a future DVD/BluRay edit of the episode.

Desilu and Paramount were happy to send all offcuts to Lincoln Enterprises, where diligent workers cut the film into clip frames, which fans bought by the handful to mount into slides.


Star Trek 11 is screwing with the timeline in real life. Didn't Roddenberry "lift" the clips from storage to sell them?
 
And then there's my favorite Day of the Dove blooper, the plasma conduit terminal that turns into a spittoon, then back again:

spitoon.jpg

It didn't become a spitoon, it came unglued from the wall. When oh when will starfleet stop cutting corners?
 
Makes one wonder if any of this footage still exists buried somewhere deep in the Paramount archives and could potentially be reincorporated into a future DVD/BluRay edit of the episode.

Desilu and Paramount were happy to send all offcuts to Lincoln Enterprises, where diligent workers cut the film into clip frames, which fans bought by the handful to mount into slides.


Star Trek 11 is screwing with the timeline in real life. Didn't Roddenberry "lift" the clips from storage to sell them?

No, that is a myth and one that was perpetuated by Justman in his book. According to Bjo Trimble (and as Therin said), when the series was "through" with the film (mainly work prints but also some internegatives), the bulk of it was given to Lincoln. However, some of the film was directly dumpstered by Lincoln, and several of my friends who lived near them in those days have told me that they were able to "dive" and find strips of clappers, efx footage, etc. Lucky stiffs....
 
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No, no, no - it was a spittoon, and it pivoted on its arm in order to deploy, just as designed. Too bad that the sensors that were convinced that Kirk was about to spit were in error that day.

(I wonder if they cut that line because they realized at the last moment that what had originally made sense when the script was for a pilot episode was now a continuity error? That the preceding episodes had in the meantime established that TOS was not taking place thousands of years after Earth's early space program? Or was it just a lucky coincidence that they ended up removing the bit that wouldn't have worked?)

Timo Saloniemi
 
I dunno - that still looks fine, but something in the way he turned his head had a "gotcha" feel to it, though. I could very well be reading into it.

There is indeed some extra dialog in the script for "The Omega Glory" which appears to have been shot but then edited out of the final cut--a couple of lines between Spock and McCoy. Here's the dialog from Act IV, Scene 178 of the Revised Final Draft--December 15, 1967:

SPOCK
There is no question of his guilt.
but does our involvement also
constitute a violation of the
Prime Directive?

KIRK
We introduced no new factor, Mr.
Spock. We merely showed them the
meaning of what they already had.

McCOY
Jim, the parallel's too close.
They seem so completely human.
Is it possible that...?

KIRK
(thoughtfully)
The result of Earth's early space
race?

SPOCK
Quite possible, Captain. They are
aggressive enough to be human.

McCOY
Now listen, Spock, you...

KIRK
Gentleman. Their fighting has
stopped. I sugges we stop ours
and let them discover their own
history.


Greg Schnitzer
Star Trek Phase II​

Clears up the Yang Konehead muddle, that perplexed me, and shows that somebody was thinking about continuity and TREK rationalism of a sort before Berman came along.

Thanks.
 
I dunno - that still looks fine, but something in the way he turned his head had a "gotcha" feel to it, though. I could very well be reading into it.

There is indeed some extra dialog in the script for "The Omega Glory" which appears to have been shot but then edited out of the final cut--a couple of lines between Spock and McCoy. Here's the dialog from Act IV, Scene 178 of the Revised Final Draft--December 15, 1967:

SPOCK
There is no question of his guilt.
but does our involvement also
constitute a violation of the
Prime Directive?​

KIRK
We introduced no new factor, Mr.
Spock. We merely showed them the
meaning of what they already had.​

McCOY
Jim, the parallel's too close.
They seem so completely human.
Is it possible that...?​

KIRK
(thoughtfully)
The result of Earth's early space
race?​

SPOCK
Quite possible, Captain. They are
aggressive enough to be human.​

McCOY
Now listen, Spock, you...​

KIRK
Gentleman. Their fighting has
stopped. I sugges we stop ours
and let them discover their own
history.​



Greg Schnitzer

Star Trek Phase II​

Makes one wonder if any of this footage still exists buried somewhere deep in the Paramount archives and could potentially be reincorporated into a future DVD/BluRay edit of the episode.

It's probably in the same place as the lost scene in the garden during Elaan of Troyius. Maybe they can both be reincorporated. If not, they could have Chris Pine, Quinto, etc... redo them and add them to future releases.
 
...Although instead of references to Earth's early space program, there should be references to Earth's early experiments with time travel. Otherwise, the US Constitution couldn't have made it to a full millennium before Kirk's time. Hell, the US Constitution wouldn't even have been written yet when the old Kohm/Yang war was fought!

Timo Saloniemi
 
Makes one wonder if any of this footage still exists buried somewhere deep in the Paramount archives and could potentially be reincorporated into a future DVD/BluRay edit of the episode.

Desilu and Paramount were happy to send all offcuts to Lincoln Enterprises, where diligent workers cut the film into clip frames, which fans bought by the handful to mount into slides.

And I have almost 100 of them from the two pilots.
Come to think of it, somone here wanted to buy them, and I lost track of the deal...
 
I dunno - that still looks fine, but something in the way he turned his head had a "gotcha" feel to it, though. I could very well be reading into it.

There is indeed some extra dialog in the script for "The Omega Glory" which appears to have been shot but then edited out of the final cut--a couple of lines between Spock and McCoy. Here's the dialog from Act IV, Scene 178 of the Revised Final Draft--December 15, 1967:

SPOCK
There is no question of his guilt.
but does our involvement also
constitute a violation of the
Prime Directive?​

KIRK
We introduced no new factor, Mr.
Spock. We merely showed them the
meaning of what they already had.​

McCOY
Jim, the parallel's too close.
They seem so completely human.
Is it possible that...?​

KIRK
(thoughtfully)
The result of Earth's early space
race?​

SPOCK
Quite possible, Captain. They are
aggressive enough to be human.​

McCOY
Now listen, Spock, you...​

KIRK
Gentleman. Their fighting has
stopped. I sugges we stop ours
and let them discover their own
history.​



Greg Schnitzer
Star Trek Phase II​

Clears up the Yang Konehead muddle, that perplexed me, and shows that somebody was thinking about continuity and TREK rationalism of a sort before Berman came along.


"Omega" blows chunks, but were that full scene and dialogue restored the episode would make a TAD bit more sense(if not much)...if little else. Tiny things like that can save an episode from total, irretrievable shitdom.
 
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