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Day of the Dove Blooper

JHoffman555

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I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but can't find it anywhere.

In Day of the Dove, toward the beginning, when Spock beams up Kirk & co. from the planet surface and leaves the Klingons in stasis, Scotty asks something to the tune of "who else was down there?"

Kirk responds, Klingons! But McCoy says something, too (and Shatner kinda gives D. Kelly a look.)

Does anyone know what McCoy says? I rewound it 16 times & couldn't make it out.
 
Even more mystifying is the famous cut dialogue between McCoy and Spock in the final moments of "The Omega Glory." Kirk mentions the Yangs needed to be left alone to rediscover their history and heritage, then McCoy begins to say something to Spock. But both the uncut and syndicated edits over the past forty years all cut the words out.
 
There's also the inexplicable Shatner voice without moving lips in the beginning of The Cloudminders. He is roped by Whatsername. He asks something like, "What's the meaning of this?" and his lips aren't moving.
 
There's also the inexplicable Shatner voice without moving lips in the beginning of The Cloudminders. He is roped by Whatsername. He asks something like, "What's the meaning of this?" and his lips aren't moving.

The Remastered version fixed this. Believe it or not.
 
There's also the inexplicable Shatner voice without moving lips in the beginning of The Cloudminders. He is roped by Whatsername. He asks something like, "What's the meaning of this?" and his lips aren't moving.

Maybe Shatner started in show business as a ventriloquist. Maybe he even took pointers from Candace Bergen's dad.

Robert
 
^^Hunh... there was a time when Candice Bergen was known as "Edgar Bergen's daughter." Or even "Charlie McCarthy's daughter," I shouldn't wonder.
 
As Kirk says "Klingons," McCoy simultaneously says "In transit? --" Scotty's next line ("Well they're right in here...") is a reply to McCoy's question.

Dialogue courtesy of the revised final draft script dated August 19, 1968.
 
Funny, I just watched the ep last night online. One of the best 3rd season eps, and probably the most thorough look at the Klingons in TOS since Errand of Mercy. Kang is bad-ass! The best Klingon proverb ever is in this one: Only a fool fights in a burning house! -- RR
 
Ah okay - cool, we have an answer.

DeForest Kelly jumped his line, then. And Shatner, ever the gentleman that he always is, flashed him a dirty look for doing so. I'm guessing budget and time precluded them from doing an additional take.
 
^^Hunh... there was a time when Candice Bergen was known as "Edgar Bergen's daughter." Or even "Charlie McCarthy's daughter," I shouldn't wonder.

Oops, spelled Candice's name wrong.

What I'd heard was that there was a sibling rivalry going on between Candice and Charlie. He had the bigger room or more extensive wardrobe when she was growing up or something like that. I'm not sure about her relationship with Mortimer Snerd though.

Robert
 
Ah okay - cool, we have an answer.

DeForest Kelly jumped his line, then. And Shatner, ever the gentleman that he always is, flashed him a dirty look for doing so. I'm guessing budget and time precluded them from doing an additional take.

Well, he didn't really jump his line. Act I, Scene 20 in the script actually indicates that Kirk's line and McCoy's line are actually supposed to be delivered simultaneously.


Greg Schnitzer
Star Trek Phase II
 
DeForest Kelly jumped his line, then. And Shatner, ever the gentleman that he always is, flashed him a dirty look for doing so.

Oh horseshit. Shatner was always professional. There was nothing about that look that was "dirty."

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Even more mystifying is the famous cut dialogue between McCoy and Spock in the final moments of "The Omega Glory." Kirk mentions the Yangs needed to be left alone to rediscover their history and heritage, then McCoy begins to say something to Spock. But both the uncut and syndicated edits over the past forty years all cut the words out.

Just checked it. It isn't that McCoy starts to say something, but rather the last syllable of a cut line from Spock is still there (because Shatner spoke over it, and they wanted his line to be intact). Shatner's line is "Gentlemen, the fighting is over here..." -- my guess is that a Spock/McCoy exchange was cut out.

Here's a divx clip. It's about 6mb. http://www.washingtonheightswarlord.com/omega2.avi
 
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I dunno - that still looks fine, but something in the way he turned his head had a "gotcha" feel to it, though. I could very well be reading into it.
 
I dunno - that still looks fine, but something in the way he turned his head had a "gotcha" feel to it, though. I could very well be reading into it.

There is indeed some extra dialog in the script for "The Omega Glory" which appears to have been shot but then edited out of the final cut--a couple of lines between Spock and McCoy. Here's the dialog from Act IV, Scene 178 of the Revised Final Draft--December 15, 1967:

SPOCK
There is no question of his guilt.
but does our involvement also
constitute a violation of the
Prime Directive?

KIRK
We introduced no new factor, Mr.
Spock. We merely showed them the
meaning of what they already had.

McCOY
Jim, the parallel's too close.
They seem so completely human.
Is it possible that...?

KIRK
(thoughtfully)
The result of Earth's early space
race?

SPOCK
Quite possible, Captain. They are
aggressive enough to be human.

McCOY
Now listen, Spock, you...

KIRK
Gentleman. Their fighting has
stopped. I sugges we stop ours
and let them discover their own
history.


Greg Schnitzer
Star Trek Phase II​
 
Even more mystifying is the famous cut dialogue between McCoy and Spock in the final moments of "The Omega Glory." Kirk mentions the Yangs needed to be left alone to rediscover their history and heritage, then McCoy begins to say something to Spock. But both the uncut and syndicated edits over the past forty years all cut the words out.

Just checked it. It isn't that McCoy starts to say something, but rather the last syllable of a cut line from Spock is still there (because Shatner spoke over it, and they wanted his line to be intact). Shatner's line is "Gentlemen, the fighting is over here..." -- my guess is that a Spock/McCoy exchange was cut out.

Here's a divx clip. It's about 6mb. http://www.washingtonheightswarlord.com/omega2.avi

THAT'S what I meant, yes. The same thing I was talking about. Thanks for the link.

Either way, a Spock-Bones exchange is forever lost and was never reincorporated into any incarnation of the episode...old or new.
 
And then there's my favorite Day of the Dove blooper, the plasma conduit terminal that turns into a spittoon, then back again:

spitoon.jpg
 
I dunno - that still looks fine, but something in the way he turned his head had a "gotcha" feel to it, though. I could very well be reading into it.

There is indeed some extra dialog in the script for "The Omega Glory" which appears to have been shot but then edited out of the final cut--a couple of lines between Spock and McCoy. Here's the dialog from Act IV, Scene 178 of the Revised Final Draft--December 15, 1967:

SPOCK
There is no question of his guilt.
but does our involvement also
constitute a violation of the
Prime Directive?​

KIRK
We introduced no new factor, Mr.
Spock. We merely showed them the
meaning of what they already had.​

McCOY
Jim, the parallel's too close.
They seem so completely human.
Is it possible that...?​

KIRK
(thoughtfully)
The result of Earth's early space
race?​

SPOCK
Quite possible, Captain. They are
aggressive enough to be human.​

McCOY
Now listen, Spock, you...​

KIRK
Gentleman. Their fighting has
stopped. I sugges we stop ours
and let them discover their own
history.​



Greg Schnitzer

Star Trek Phase II​

Makes one wonder if any of this footage still exists buried somewhere deep in the Paramount archives and could potentially be reincorporated into a future DVD/BluRay edit of the episode.
 
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