David Warner Passes

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  1. JaxsBrokenHeart

    JaxsBrokenHeart Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Warner's entire career is worth gushing about (he's still the Ra's al Ghul to me) but there's something deeply special to me about him acting against Shatner and Stewart in two opposite roles and pulling off both effortlessly. His film stuff is worth checking out first and I have second the talk about checking out his Big Finish audio work.
     
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  2. Allyn Gibson

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    Warner was on David Morrissey's podcast, Who Am I This Time?, one of those podcasts with an actor talking about their craft, last year. (Morrissey is very good at eliciting conversation in this, and I think it's one of the better examples in the genre.) While the interview is mainly about The Omen, Warner also talks about some of his other work, including A Christmas Carol.

    He was originally cast as Jacob Marley, but Warner didn't want to do another sinister character at that time and he had his agent push for Bob Cratchet. During the shoot, Warner mainly hung out with George C. Scott in his trailer, and they played Trivial Pursuit. Scott insisted the answers to questions about Patton were incorrect!

    I was listening to some of his BBC audio work this evening -- specifically, BBC Radio 4's 2014 The Once and Future King, in which he plays Merlyn -- but I think 2011's The History of Titus Groan, adapting Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast novels, may boast one of Warner's finest performances. He plays a character called The Artist, a painter nearing the end of his own life who lives on an island, and Titus Groan tells him the story of his childhood, his escape from his family and Gormenghast, and the world he finds beyond Gormenghast's walls. It offered me the key to Gormenghast that had always eluded me, and Warner's character helped me to understand some things I went through in my own life.
     
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  3. maneth

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    RIP. I'll always remember his unforgettable performances as Gorkon, and as Aldous Gajic on Babylon 5. It was a memorable guest appearance.
     
  4. auntiehill

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    RIP David Warner.

    I always had a soft spot for Time After Time. He and Malcolm were great together.
     
  5. Foxhot

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    My favorite movie paparazzi. I'm not going to dwell on what happens to him in the first OMEN, but his character knew he was doomed, retained his honor and was determined to depluck the little evil Thorn until the (bitter end)..

    RIP, sir.
     
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  6. Starkers

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    What's so wonderful about that film is that I imagine you could have swapped roles with Warner playing HG Wells and McDowell as Jack the Ripper and I bet it would have still worked.

    Anyway a great actor, wonderful in anything he starred in. RIP, Mr Warner.
     
  7. auntiehill

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    Yes, you totally could! In fact, they were rather cast against type. Their "energy" in real life was probably opposite of how they were cast.
     
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    Whether it was his role in Tron, Time After Time or Titanic, he often played a bad guy. But he did it so well.

    His interaction with Stewart in "Chain of Command" was tremendous. In honor of his memorable, convincing performance as Gul Madred, I say "There are five lights!"

    RIP.
     
  10. Captaindemotion

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    I always thought it inexplicable that they cast him in TFF in a fairly thankless role, rather than as Sybok, so it was great to see him in 2 subsequent iconic (within trek, anyway) roles, Gorkon and Madred.
     
  11. somebuddyX

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    I always wanted to check out his Doctor Who Unbound audios. His Doctor sounded great.
     
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  12. Allyn Gibson

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    Warner talks about St. John Talbot in the David Morrissey podcast I mention above as an example of how American scriptwriters will give English characters ridiculous names. His character in The Omen had a ridiculous name in the original script (when it was called "Birthmark"), and he also cites Miles Richardson's character in A Princess for Christmas, who's named "Paisley Winterbottom."
     
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  13. Foxhot

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    Haber Jennings as opposed to Keith? Or something more unusual?
     
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    they followed up with putting his Doctor into the Bernice Summerfield New Adventures (series 3 onwards with S7 coming out in September)
     
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    In the original "Birthmark" script, his character was named "Hayden Payne." He said he or his agent suggested renaming the character.
     
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  16. TedShatner10

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    Well it's kinda amusing that David Warner in Tron not only played crooked Encom programmer Dillinger but within the inner cyberspace he also played Sark warlord and voiced the evil AI.

    And to hammer home how old Tron really is now you see how relatively youthful Mr. Warner and Jeff Bridges looked...
     
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  17. somebuddyX

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    I think he voiced something for Tron Legacy too, like an extra scene. I'm sure he talks to his son at one point or something.
     
  18. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Amusing? Not really.

    All programs in the ENCOM system look like their Users. So naturally Sark (and the MCP) would share Dillinger's features, since he created them both.

    Same goes for Flynn/Clu, Alan/Tron, Gibbs/Dumont, Lora/Yori, Peter/Sark's Lieutenant....etc. That's just the way it works in the system. If you are a programmer, any programs you create will exist in the computer world as...copies of you.

    (Fun fact: The ENCOM programmer - in the original Tron - who asks Alan if he could have some of his popcorn...is Ram's User. And had a fairly big part in that "Flynn Lives" arc.)
     
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  19. TedShatner10

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    Well it's amusing David Warner was essentially talking to himself for most of the movie.
     
  20. Foxhot

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    Sounds less like a VALLEY OF THE DOLLS stock figure that way.

    Objection. Middle-aged.

    My best friend memorized THE OMEN plot and we both knew it well, so one day I took a photo of myself and mailed it to him after magic-marking a sharp shadow pointing at my crotch.:angel:
     
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