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David Goyer: "Magneto" on hold, "Blade" may return

I definitely think Magneto would be pretty useless. Villains are kept best a mystery. Look at Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Magneto, Hannibal Lecter, The Joker (as portrayed by Heath Ledger)...once you know the history behind the character, it removes the enigma and the mystery which makes them so alluring in the first place.

I agree to a point, but Magneto was never a mystery. It could be another Hannibal Rising, but it could also be another Dark Knight. Magneto and Xavier's history has some really strong themes in it that could be explored well. Themes of struggle, friendship, and fighting against bigotry. Almost like an allegory for Malcom X v. MLK. And that could work incredibly well. You don't even need major special effects or set pieces. Just effective drama.

You have a point. I think, though, to regular audiences, the only thing we know about Magneto is his past as a Holocaust survivor and the fact that he was friends with Xavier and helped started the X-Men. At least that which was told to audiences in the first X-Men.

I guess then my real problems with the concept would be two things: One, having a young, talented actor play Magneto. Even if he does a good job, whoever is chosen, he isn't nearly going to match Ian McKellen's performance. I believe the actor who played Young Hannibal in Hannibal Rising had the same problem. It's unavoidable and inescapable. Two, the story synopsis that I read had Magneto seeking revenge for the death of his parents by Nazi's. A very similar plot to Hannibal Rising (where instead of his parents, Hannibal sought revenge for the death of his sister) and I think a plot like that belittles the character. Magneto has never really been one for mere revenge.

I think that if you made it more about showing Erik's disillusionment through his years in the Holocaust and then his forming years with Charles Xavier, and show, from Erik's perspective, how evil the world can really be, you could almost have a sort of moral dilemma which I agree would make a terrific drama.

That's the thing, though. It would have to be a drama and not a revenge thriller. That's the only way how I would get behind this film.
 
Actually I prefer the title if they can get away with using it...Marvel Origins: Blade if you wanted to go back and explore his origin. I would like to see Blade take on Morbius...I think he would have made a better than the resurrected Dracula in Blade Trinity. Couldn't really accept Dominic Purcell as Dracula even though I liked John Doe (haven't really watched Prison Break to enjoy him in that or not). Apologies to Jackson who already brought up the original Blade III plot idea, I am smitten with it as well and would love to get my hands on Goyer's treatment for it. I just thought it was such a great idea and a sort of twist in the direction everyone thought the film story would go.
 
Ugh, enough with the "Origins"! X-Men Origins: Wolverine this, X-Men Origins: Magneto that! Whatever happened to inventive, creative titles!?

I would love for Blade and Morbius to face off. I agree he would have been a better villain than that retrofitted Dracula Goyer came up with. Yuck.
 
My resurrected Dracula serves a more sinister purpose than the one in Blade Trinity but I must admit that I was partially re-inspired after seeing that. Yeah I am still wondering why Marvel Studios can't simply just name their films Magneto, and Wolverine. I realize that by putting the moniker X-Men Origins in front of them could potentially draw in a larger crowd, but if these films are gardened towards X-Men fans in the first place then why bother with the weird titles?
 
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20th Century Fox seems to think audiences are idiots, and until they realize that we are not, they are going to continue making bad decisions and more importantly, bad films.
 
I definitely think Magneto would be pretty useless. Villains are kept best a mystery. Look at Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Magneto, Hannibal Lecter, The Joker (as portrayed by Heath Ledger)...once you know the history behind the character, it removes the enigma and the mystery which makes them so alluring in the first place.

I would have to disagree. Magneto is also more an anti-Villian. Surviving the Holocaust and similar human treatment of mutants, he has been driven well over the edge. However, at his core he is not an evil man. He wants the intolerance to stop. But as most rights movements go some are patient choose diplomacy (like Xavier) while other are impatient and turn to force like Magneto. Without his backstory and the reasons he became the man he is, Magneto is a much weaker character.
 
Magneto movie I could do without...but another Blade might be interesting if they could find a story. I still want would love to see Goyer's original plans for Blade 3 when the vamps taking over and taking place in the future.

It was really nothing more than I Am Legend, except with Blade as the protagonist instead of Robert Neville. As I recall, the script's idea was that in this post-apocalyptic scenario, Blade had finally run out of sources for his serum and was slowly going mad due to the thirst. At some point, the vampires resurrected Dracula, who finally captured Blade, and he was taken to be publicly executed unless he renounced his ways and joined the vampires. Right at the end, Blade instead activated a doomsday weapon (I believe it was not entirely dissimilar to the Daystar virus from the finished film) and killed himself and the vampires.

It really, really was not very good at all.
 
While Blade was originally a 70's era Shaftesque figure, his most recent series retconned him as being born and raised in Victorian England. It tried to merge the film and original comic verisons.
God what a terrible idea. That and his "new" retconned father was white. This white elder vamp became his biological dad as well. When prior his bio parents were always black, his vamp "dad" being white wasn't an issue in Frost. This new origin had Frost out of the picture in place of elder pure blood vamp as the bio dad.
I read the whole series and was dissapointed with how it went. Apparently I was of the few who hung in there hoping it would turn around before being canned.


Blade was always British in the comics, but the movies have really diminished that; Paul Cornell in Captain Britain and MI:13 is out to reestablish it in the comics.
Really? So Blade is being used in a minor capacity in this series? How has this been in your opinion?


I'm all for more Blade. The TV series was actually good if you stuck through the first 3-4 episodes.


As for Magneto. I'm just not interested in a solo Magneto film. Maybe I could be interested but there are just so many other avenues that Magneto isn't a character I care about individually.
 
WAS comic Blade's father explicitly revealed as black? I've read Tomb of Dracula through many many times and I can't remember Blade's father ever appearing.

And Captain Britain and MI:13 is one of the very few good things to come out of Secret Invasion.
 
Blade III was crap.

Once Wesley Snipes is paroled, the next movie should simply forget it about it.

Use Morbius as a villain.
 
Wouldn't a Magneto prequel movie clash with a First Class/X-Men collective origins movie?
 
Am I the only one who kinda liked Blade III? It was silly, yeah, but had a great campy spirit to it that I found was a helluva lot of fun to watch. Plus I just loved seeing Parker Posey as the vampire bitch.
 
Am I the only one who kinda liked Blade III? It was silly, yeah, but had a great campy spirit to it that I found was a helluva lot of fun to watch. Plus I just loved seeing Parker Posey as the vampire bitch.

Back when I was a drinker, it was pretty high on the list of movies that I enjoyed when my wife and I were blitzed, simply because it's so hugely retarded. It's got some good ideas in it, but none of those ideas ever reach fruition; they're more like babies choked to death during birth by the umbilical cord that was David Goyer's inability to juggle production, writing and direction.
 
WAS comic Blade's father explicitly revealed as black? I've read Tomb of Dracula through many many times and I can't remember Blade's father ever appearing.
I can't say for certain that I could point to a comic example either.
However, in the TV show it was revealed that way I do believe.

Am I the only one who kinda liked Blade III? It was silly, yeah, but had a great campy spirit to it that I found was a helluva lot of fun to watch. Plus I just loved seeing Parker Posey as the vampire bitch.
Nah, I liked Blade: Trinity as well. I also wouldn't call it great but its an entertaining film and I wanted more Blade and/or NightStalkers.
 
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