...is hot. Very hot. And unlike Jessica Rabbit, he's both hot and drawn that way.
that had not crossed my mind.
Data in Star Trek Countdown
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that had not crossed my mind.
Data already holds the accumulated knowledge of his colony's population ("Datalore") and we see it's quite extensive knowledge, so that he can essentially take on personalities of those colonists ("Silicon Avatar"). He also holds the memory patterns of Ira Graves (end of "The Schizoid Man") and Lal ("The Offspring"). Who's to say the B-4 doesn't exist inside the new Data the same way, or that B-4 co-exists as a separate - or even consensual conjoined - entity within the body of the B-4?
I can give you a long list of unstable human starship captains.
I'm not usually a Data gal, but he was hot in the comix.
Data used to be hot in TNG, before we learned the amazing fact that androids can gain weight.
He looked very good in the Starfleet uniform... once upon a time.
but Data did not kill those people to allow himself to live, like he (possibly) did with B4.
It is very possible B4 is still "alive" within Data, but no more than any of the colony's, it would seem Data took over B4s body, he did not take over the body of one of the colonists.
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Well I always considered that B-4 was more or less an incomplete program and once Data's programming came into the mix, it finished it. And since Data's programming was far more complete and complex and not to mention evolved beyond where even Dr. Soong probably dreamt, it made sense that more and more B-4 would turn into Data.
I suppose some writer could say that down the road Data downloaded the "B-4" subroutines into a new shell as he did with Lal. For all we know Data has a few android "children" in his quarters.
There's a lot you can say there. So even if Data essentially forced B-4 out of the body, it would make sense, Data's the more mature "program" for all intents and purposes, plus its easier for Starfleet to consider him Data instead of "I am Data-B4". "He looks like Data, talks like Data, acts like Data... well fuck it if it isn't Data!"
I suppose some writer could say that down the road Data downloaded the "B-4" subroutines into a new shell as he did with Lal. For all we know Data has a few android "children" in his quarters.
There's a lot you can say there. So even if Data essentially forced B-4 out of the body, it would make sense, Data's the more mature "program" for all intents and purposes, plus its easier for Starfleet to consider him Data instead of "I am Data-B4". "He looks like Data, talks like Data, acts like Data... well fuck it if it isn't Data!"
Data was cool, B4 was crap. I'm not looking any further into this gift horse's mouth.
And you are the only one insisting that Data "killed" B-4.
The possibilities are endless, but murder doesn't have to be one of them.
As Data's memories and programming took hold, any number of things could have happened. B-4 may have been more than happy to embrace the new input. He was gaining more than he was losing because... what was he losing?
Actually, what happens when you upgrade a computer? The new additions enhance what's already there. The case remains the same and, if you chose to do so, you could even partition off the hard drive to keep your old and new material separated, but within the one case.
Why?
Some of us prefer plot threads like that to be open-ended, so we can think about the possibilities. Why should every plot thread be fully explained by the writers themselves, leaving nothing to the imagination?
to stop people like me making threads like this ?
Movies that spoonfeed every skerrick of information, even though it sounds like something you might like, would be terribly patronising and over-long. There'd be no reason to discuss them afterwards, and no need to see them more than once.
"Countdown" exists because TNG-only fans were feeling there was nothing in JJ's "Star Trek" for them. The screenwriters of JJ's movie are unashamed TNG fans, and wanted to link their movie closely to the show they loved. So a comic prequel that was also a sequel, set firmly in the 24th century, and which featured fan faves, such as Picard, Data and Worf, was a natural.
"Countdown" certainly doesn't explain everything. As you suggested earlier, it sets up more questions than it answers!
IDW recently announced their forthcoming DS9 comics, but they've decided to focus on Dominion War stories, 'cos then they get to feature Worf, a character proven to sell comics!
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