Darth Maul question?

[Immolatus]

Could Darth Maul have lead the separatist during the clone wars? While I enjoyed him in TPM, he was like a pit bull tied up, I don't think he had what it takes to lead a government. Dooku was the right man for the job. I know that the sith had other plans from the get go, but it still has to be believable to the planets your trying to make leave the Republic. Do you think Maul could have done it (assuming he didn't die in TPM)

 

[Guy Gardener]

Material (In the TV Guide) which probably turned out to be misleading bullshit suggested that General Grevious was "built" from the remains of Darth Maul.

 

[Hermiod]

I'd imagine not. Obviously, there's a brain under there as dumb people can't master the force as he did, but he's no Count Dooku.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Luke almost had children with his sister. He's quite thick. It's just about emotions. Clearing them to become a Jedi and drowning in them to become a Sith. O, and metaclorians. It doesn't take intelligence to become an accident of biology.

 

[Hermiod]

^It takes intelligence to learn how to fight with a dual bladed sword like that.

And Luke did not nearly end up having kids with his twin sister! She kissed him once and that was to make Han jealous!

 

[Gaith]

You forgot the Death Star cheek-peck.

 

[JonathonWally]

No, he couldn't have.

Maul, Dooku, and Grevious are all "parts of Vader"

Maul was the brute force side of Vader.

 

[DarKush]

Maul was intelligent, but he was more like a living weapon. I think that was what he was trained to be. And his biggest goal was getting revenge on the Jedi and reestablishing Sith dominance. From what I've read of him he didn't seem to want to be a political leader and either didn't possess or didn't build those skill sets.

Dooku, on the other hand, was more of a political leader. A former aristocrat, a well regarded Jedi, he would be taken more seriously as a legitimate critic of the Republic than Maul.

I wish Maul had at least lived until the second movie, or got more screentime in TPM. His death just seemed like such a waste of an awesome character.

 

[Skywalker]

No, he couldn't have.

Maul, Dooku, and Grevious are all "parts of Vader"

Maul was the brute force side of Vader.

Exactly so. I didn't get that until after I'd seen ROTS and complained about Grievous for a while. I think that was actually a pretty clever idea of Lucas'.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Maul was trained to be a killing machine, and nothing else, IMO. It takes a certain charisma to convince the political leaders of many systems to break away from the Republic. Dooku was the right person to do that, plus he had the benefit of not everyone knowing he was a Sith.

The only way I can see Maul being around during the Separatist movement was as a henchman for Sidious as Vader was during the time of the Empire...

 

[MyCylon]

Re. DrunkenHobo and SkyHaunter:

I don't quite understand what you mean. Do you mean they were meant to foreshadow individual parts of Vader's character? Or is it more literal than that?

 

[Basill]

I think is was more symbolic.

 

[blockaderunner]

Well, at the time he was trained and set loose, he was more or less a weapon who wasn't adept in using the Force in the heat of battle (note how he had to retreat and pause to Force push the battle droid piece into the control panel to open up the control room door in his battle with Obi Wan and Qui Gon, as opposed to Vader using the Force to hurl all manner of objects at Luke while he was still dueling him in ESB). But, given some time and tactical training, I think he might have made a good field commander during the Clone Wars.

 

[John Picard]

Well, at the time he was trained and set loose, he was more or less a weapon who wasn't adept in using the Force in the heat of battle (note how he had to retreat and pause to Force push the battle droid piece into the control panel to open up the control room door in his battle with Obi Wan and Qui Gon, as opposed to Vader using the Force to hurl all manner of objects at Luke while he was still dueling him in ESB). But, given some time and tactical training, I think he might have made a good field commander during the Clone Wars.

But Vader/Anakin's midichlorian count was off of the chart. He was literally the most powerful Jedi to exist and as such he could use the Force almost as one breathes all while performing other tasks.

 

[Hermiod]

But Vader/Anakin's midichlorian count was off of the chart. He was literally the most powerful Jedi to exist and as such he could use the Force almost as one breathes all while performing other tasks.

I vaguely recall, perhaps it was from the RotS DVD commentary, Lucas saying that if Anakin hadn't lost that fight with Obi-Wan and sustained the injuries he did he would have been a lot more powerful, to the point where the Palpatine wouldn't have stayed Emperor for very long.

In other words, Obi-Wan saved the entire galaxy that day as a fully powered Vader would have been untouchable.

 

[FordSVT]

^He should have finished Anakin and saved him from a terrible burning death as one would put a horse out of it's misery. Instead, he let him live, walked away, and let him become Vader. He had committed to killing Anakin, I don't know why he didn't finish the job. One could assume he though Anakin was finished due to the extent of his injuries, but I for one would have made sure.

But really, from a purely humanitarian standpoint he shouldn't have let Anakin suffer like that, especially since it's certain he still had some good feelings left towards him.

 

[MyCylon]

But Vader/Anakin's midichlorian count was off of the chart. He was literally the most powerful Jedi to exist and as such he could use the Force almost as one breathes all while performing other tasks.

I vaguely recall, perhaps it was from the RotS DVD commentary, Lucas saying that if Anakin hadn't lost that fight with Obi-Wan and sustained the injuries he did he would have been a lot more powerful, to the point where the Palpatine wouldn't have stayed Emperor for very long.

In other words, Obi-Wan saved the entire galaxy that day as a fully powered Vader would have been untouchable.

Interesting. In a sense, they play off that in Star Wars: Force Unleashed (I played the video game btw.).

 

[Hermiod]

Anakin was described, not only by himself, as having lightsabre skills to match Yoda and we know his raw strength with the Force was greater.

A young, healthy Anakin with full control over his potential is not somebody Yoda, Obi-Wan or anyone else would want to fight.

 

[FPAlpha]

Could Darth Maul have lead the separatist during the clone wars? While I enjoyed him in TPM, he was like a pit bull tied up, I don't think he had what it takes to lead a government. Dooku was the right man for the job. I know that the sith had other plans from the get go, but it still has to be believable to the planets your trying to make leave the Republic. Do you think Maul could have done it (assuming he didn't die in TPM)

No.. he's the arrow who you point at your enemy and then let go.

Darth Maul isn't dumb.. he can be patient, stealthy and cunning but his skillset is different than the one needed to be a public leader.

He'd be perhaps good as a battlefied commander but that'd about it. He's not interested in politics, trade agreements etc. because he excels in combat and likes it that way.

I believe if he ever got any ambitions to replace the Emperor he would notice it and quickly dispose of him. He's a weapon to him and nothing more whereas Anakin had far more potential both in brute power and other skills which he may have intended to develop.

 

[A beaker full of death]

Darth Maul... wasn't he that henchman with the red face? Did he even have any dialogue?