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Dark Matter, SyFy's new space show, premieres June 12th

I doubt Red will come into play. As far as I know she was just a part of the Android's systems, and if they're all fried she should be too.
This one was pretty good. The heist stuff was fun, and it was while I have been enjoying the episodes dealing with the characters' story arcs, it was also kind of nice to just get a fun action/adventure episode. It did still move the overall arc with the crew's situation forward, so it wasn't totally standalone. My only real issue with it is the one Christopher brought up with Two and the other group's leader.
The ending was kind of a surprise, but wasn't a big shock. I'm curious if the thing they stole is going to come into play next week, or if it was simply an excuse to get the other mercenaries on the Raza.
 
JD said:
I doubt Red will come into play. As far as I know she was just a part of the Android's systems, and if they're all fried she should be too.
This one was pretty good. The heist stuff was fun, and it was while I have been enjoying the episodes dealing with the characters' story arcs, it was also kind of nice to just get a fun action/adventure episode. It did still move the overall arc with the crew's situation forward, so it wasn't totally standalone..
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I'm wondering if the stories about the crew of the Reza being such bad asses is smoke screen. From what we've seen of the crew's back stories other that 4 I can't really seeing them being the dreaded mercenaries that everyone else thinks they are.
 
cylkoth said:
Would it be mean to criticize the characters for taking absolutely no precautions with regards to ship security while having a bunch of thieving ruffians onboard? Like seal off decks thereby restricting their movements, and locking the infirmary door after Six and Four depart in the shuttle, and ordering the Android to monitor the lead ruffian while they were all gone...keeping closed circuit cameras on him, no unauthorised computer useage, and finally, no bridge access-including the corridor to it, at all?!! :wtf:
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Give them a break -- they're effectively only a few weeks old. They have muscle memory and such, but that doesn't mean they automatically know how to cope with a situation like this.



Marc said:
I'm wondering if the stories about the crew of the Reza being such bad asses is smoke screen. From what we've seen of the crew's back stories other that 4 I can't really seeing them being the dreaded mercenaries that everyone else thinks they are.
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Remember how deadly Two was in the casino on that first space station? She seems to be the badassiest of them all when she cuts loose. Three/Boone is evidently a pretty effective and amoral mercenary, Four/Ryo is capable and ruthless, and though Six/Griffin had a conscience, he could express it rather lethally, and since he was wanted as a mass murderer, he probably didn't have many options but to go along with his mercenary role. The four of them together would've been pretty dangerous.
 
Do we have any indication if it'll get another season ?

If it does, it would certainly be nice if it opened up a little. It kind of feels like an ongoing 'bottle show' at the moment.
 
Christopher said:
Marc said:
I'm wondering if the stories about the crew of the Reza being such bad asses is smoke screen. From what we've seen of the crew's back stories other that 4 I can't really seeing them being the dreaded mercenaries that everyone else thinks they are.
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Remember how deadly Two was in the casino on that first space station? She seems to be the badassiest of them all when she cuts loose. Three/Boone is evidently a pretty effective and amoral mercenary, Four/Ryo is capable and ruthless, and though Six/Griffin had a conscience, he could express it rather lethally, and since he was wanted as a mass murderer, he probably didn't have many options but to go along with his mercenary role. The four of them together would've been pretty dangerous.
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have the skills that could be useful to a mercenary doesn't mean one would have the temprament to be do.

The mission before they went into cryo-sleep was wipe out a colony for a corporation. As a man who'd been a freedom fighter such as Six, it would have gone against everything he'd fought for.

We've also seen from the flashbacks that Four had a conscience and unless it was trained out of him as he grew older while he would kill it wouldn't be cold blood or needlessly.

Two we still don't know enough about her background.

Which I guess leaves the guy 1 had himself to altered to look like (and form the episode does seem to fit the mold)
 
^I don't think Corso was previously a member of the Raza crew. I think he said that he'd answered a job offer to join the crew, only to find that someone had already done so in his name.

And we don't know how much bitter experience the characters went through between the flashbacks we've seen and the moment of the memory wipe. It's possible they were worn down by circumstance and ended up doing more and more immoral things over time. The memory wipe has sort of reset them to a more innocent state, giving them a second chance at redemption.
 
Forbin said:
Oh, and - when 5 was rewiring the battery-thing... wires? Really? :vulcan:
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Hard to rewire something without wires.

Is it so unreasonable that future technology would continue to use wires? Anything based on electricity needs conductive channels. Sure, microcircuits have them etched into the silicon, but you also need wires or cables to connect separate components to each other. Star Trek's 24th-century series used "futuristic" fiber optic cables in place of wires, but fiber optics are for transmitting information, not power.

We tend to assume that future technologies would replace modern technologies, but it's more common for old and new to coexist. I mean, I'm typing this on a solid-state electronic device with an LCD monitor, but my shoes are tied with laces, just like those of my ancestors thousands of years ago, and I'm drinking water out of a glass that was probably made using techniques that are millennia old. No point in replacing something that works.
 
It seems the tradition of a weak conclusion in the second half of two parter-particularly after an effective cliffhanger ending, continues...

That was an underwhelming wrap up, puncuated by the writers refusal to allow the characters to even talk with Two onscreen after she takes back the ship and they're rescued. I'm more than a little peeved that they chose to drag this out. The revelation of her nature demanded we get to see them talk to her, show us their shock and joy over her surviving-hey, she saved their lives, and confront what she is. Instead, the Men of the Raza(tm) are shown isolated from her, talking about her, and we're hit with another mega cliffhanger. Also disappointing was that Red-droid played no part in the story, as the Android was sidelined for the entire main story... Another plot point that hopefully shows up later on down the line (I'm sure it will).

There were some nice character moments with the MOTR(tm) while they were locked away, and suffering from a fading air supply. Six teasing Three over just how much he cared about Two. And the women got to save the day! As much as Wexler deserved his fate, I am sorry that he won't be crossing paths with the Raza crew again. Unless he's a frequent customer of a certain travel agency...;)
 
I just had a thought.

How do we know that Killjoys and darkmatter are not Thunderdoming?

Both shows are being made on a shoe string, an impressive shoe string, but the corners being cut are blatantly obvious.

At the end of the year, the winner takes the other one's budget for season 2.

2 shows enter, one show leaves.
 
I liked this episode, it played out about as you'd expect considering how part 1 went. I just knew that planet was going to blow up. The Raza's reputation just increased a millionfold. They are now planet killers.

But yeah, strongly disliked how Two had no interaction with everyone else after she saved them. WTF? Are we going to have to get Magneto up on that ship so he can tell the four guys to treat her like a normal person?
 
Two surviving was very predictable given that we had seen her healing powers before.

I just knew that the Vons dude would not survive his space walk.

Agreed that two not having any scenes with the guys was a bad decision by the writers.

Now that Five/Das has killed someone maybe she will fit better with the crew of Raza.
 
Guy Gardener said:
I just had a thought.

How do we know that Killjoys and darkmatter are not Thunderdoming?

Both shows are being made on a shoe string, an impressive shoe string, but the corners being cut are blatantly obvious.

At the end of the year, the winner takes the other one's budget for season 2.

2 shows enter, one show leaves.
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If true, I'm hoping Dark Matter wins. The reveal about two just made her more interesting, and Killjoys just gets stupider with each episode.
 
This was a mix of good character moments -- the guys locked in the vault, mainly -- and missed opportunities for character moments. The Two revelation was handled a bit too cursorily, with the Android just info-dumping the whole explanation that she'd already known, and with little reaction among the crew. Five losing her blood innocence should've had followup -- killing for the first time isn't something you can just casually shake off.

Also, I really did not need to see a teenage girl threatened with rape. That added nothing to the story and was just unpleasant.

Too much of what happens on this show just feels random. The Macguffin they stole blew up a planet? That came out of nowhere. The problem with these characters lacking memory is that too much happens with no context. Same with the revelation about Two. She's a replicant supersoldier! It's a forbidden technology! Another thing that just felt thrown in out of nowhere. Sure, it was set up beforehand (and I'm so glad she's finally ditched that stupid bandage), but it's just one more of the random concepts tossed into this series without any sense of cohesiveness. It's so frustrating to go from Killjoys, where every story brings more insight into the rich, coherent worldbuilding that was clearly worked out in detail ahead of time, to Dark Matter, whose worldbuilding seems to consist of tossing sci-fi tropes together at random. (Not to mention tropes from other genres, like the incongruous samurai-movie medievalism of the Ishidas.) There's just no sense of purpose to it all, no sense that it fits together into a larger whole.
 
Those commandos that boarded the Raza looked like a bunch of paintball nerds that got hired for extras at the last minute. Those costumes were an embarrassment.

They should have just taken the BSG route and put them in standard marine combat attire. Might not have been very science-fictiony, but at least it wouldn't have looked ridiculous.
 
Cyrus said:
Two surviving was very predictable given that we had seen her healing powers before.

I just knew that the Vons dude would not survive his space walk.

Agreed that two not having any scenes with the guys was a bad decision by the writers.

Now that Five/Das has killed someone maybe she will fit better with the crew of Raza.
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Even though we all knew how Two would survive going in the story played out. Maybe one of the better hours of space opera that I can recall recently. Pairing Dark Matters with The Last Ship has given me an enjoyable late summer TV time.
 
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