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Dark Matter, SyFy's new space show, premieres June 12th

So, no. Any sci-fi handwave you've ever heard about teleporters or recycling processes converting matter to energy is stupid. Ignore it. Converting mass to energy can only be done with nuclear reactions or matter-antimatter annihilation. If you want to convert one material object into another material object, you just change one form of matter to another form of matter.
Point conceded.

Joseph Mallozzi has released part 2 of him answering post-S1 fan questions: https://josephmallozzi.wordpress.co...azza-more-of-your-burning-questions-answered/

It's positive that one of the main showrunners is quite open with the fans. I have a good feeling about DM not turning out like BSG did, after the good start of the latter.
 
That is one thing that is great about the modern internet era. I love that it gives us more of a chance to interact with the people responsible for thing like TV shows, movies, books and comics.
 
This showed up on Netflix a few weeks ago. I decided to give it try last weekend. I was expecting a cheesy Firefly ripoff but instead was pleasantly surprised as to how good it was.

I spent the last week binge watching it but now I'm sad because I got to the finale. Any word on when the new shows come out?
 
Summer 2016 most likely. They'll shoot the season premiere in mid December, then break for Christmas and resume production in January. S2 will be another 13 episodes.
 
This showed up on Netflix a few weeks ago. I decided to give it try last weekend. I was expecting a cheesy Firefly ripoff but instead was pleasantly surprised as to how good it was.

I wouldn't exactly have called it good. I'd say pretty decent for the money, but to be good it would have to look a little better, have some serious worldbuilding and a bit more swagger.

It's promising...
 
I think the big difference is which show looks like it can build up to something.

Its growing for example I first thought "Three" sucked, but after some time Anthony Lemke's character grew on me especially with the marcus deteriorating disease story...this show can easily build like its characters are building
 
And it isn't to say that Earth-based shows can't be real science fiction. That's a stereotype. Indeed, for much of the '80s and '90s, prose science fiction tended to focus primarily on near-future Earth-based stories focusing on themes like computers and AI, biotechnology and transhumanism, dystopian and post-apocalyptic scenarios, and the like. Since mass-media science fiction tends to lag about two decades behind the prose, a similar shift in focus occurred there in the 2000s. But it's called science fiction, not space fiction. As long as it's driven by the effects of scientific and technological change, then it's just as much SF whether it's on present-day Earth or 37th-century space.

Heck, I consider Eureka to be one of the most solidly science-fictional shows ever made. Because it was actually, fundamentally a show about science itself -- about scientist characters and their work, about the impact of their discoveries and inventions. Sure, the science was extremely fanciful (though it got better in the last 2-3 seasons), but the work of science itself was the central focus of the entire series, more so than even on Star Trek, and enormously more so than on something like Dark Matter or Killjoys. Those shows are space opera, but Eureka was science fiction in the purest, most literal sense.

I'd also count Fringe as a good example of a present-day show that was emphatically science fiction. Two of its three lead characters were scientists (essentially), and all its plots were driven by mad science and its consequences. Again, it was thoroughly fanciful, often quite ludicrous pseudoscience, but it was presented as science, the result of scientist characters' research and innovation.

Agreed. However, after a couple decades of being spoiled by space-based sci-fi like Andromeda, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Crusade, Firefly, Starhunter, 17 seasons of Stargate, and 25 seasons of Star Trek (1987-2005), it was weird to suddenly face a world where the bulk of TV sci-fi consisted of various riffs on The X-Files. I.e. present-day Earth-based shows about paranormal investigations like Fringe, Primeval, Torchwood, & Warehouse 13.

Personally, generally, I prefer my sci-fi to be a bit more fanciful. It makes it easier to work as escapism. (Although, ironically, I prefer my fantasy TV to be grounded in present-day reality i.e. Angel, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, & Lost Girl.)
 
Shows like Eureka, Warehouse 13, The X-Files, Fringe, and Torchwood were deeply fanciful. Ditto for Buffy/Angel and Lost Girl. I don't see anything grounded or realistic about them. And there's nothing intrinsically fanciful about outer space. It's a physically real place -- heck, it's most of the universe. Plenty of fiction set in outer space is scientifically plausible and realistic -- including my own original SF, but just limiting it to recent screen works, you've got things like Gravity, Europa Report, Interstellar, The Martian, and The Expanse on TV.
 
I must say I was surprised that such a cheap show has kept me glued to the TV with every episode.

I am looking forward to season 2.

Kor
 
As I've said before, it makes sense to me that space stations would have shopping malls. It's not like they're trying to pass the malls off as military facilities or research centers; they actually do represent commercial/retail areas in-story.
 
As I've said before, it makes sense to me that space stations would have shopping malls. It's not like they're trying to pass the malls off as military facilities or research centers; they actually do represent commercial/retail areas in-story.
It's not a big deal for me, I was just trying to get across that they look more like present day shopping malls rather than the kind of sets they use on something like The Expanse.
 
Guys if you have time and patience, I highly recommend this show, its goofy, maybe a little shallow...but the cast are great and it is HIGHLY entertaining, a real fun watch...it is not the best scifi on tv but its a very good show watch for a scifi fix, the show just keeps going good with each episode.

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No, silly! It means Minshara! MINSHARA!! :P

Rare Earth is certainly the most realistic, but I'm sure Sci-Fi TV would rather avoid it in the name of cheaper storytelling.
Mark

Give me an example of Rare Earth scifi...I suppose Solyaris, Blade Runner, 2001, Interstellar, SAAB, Firefly, Outlander?
 
WTF I just started watching Four / Ryo Tetsuda in ep 9...is there any of the crew that are ok people?
Well, since re-waking without much of their memories a few of them seem quite allright. Four is the most chilling of the lot. Two is fine, but don't piss her off, she has some anger issues.
 
WTF I just started watching Four / Ryo Tetsuda in ep 9...is there any of the crew that are ok people?
That is kind of the whole point though. They were supposed to be pretty bad before they lost their memories, althought things do become a bit more grey in that regard as the show goes on.

My only real complaint about the alot of the current rise in space sci-fi is the lack of aliens. One of my favorite aspects of things like Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, Farscape and Doctor Who are all of the cool aliens. I really wish we could get that in more of the current space shows.
 
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