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Daredevil season 3 Marvel/Netflix

Well, 2 years is a while but it's not that long, with movies usually taking 3 years to make, at least Netflix cancelled right away instead of stringing everyone along for another year or two and then saying they were cancelled, I'm assuming that 2 years is already started as soon as the announcements. So it's not too bad. Maybe this gives the productions time to come up with something close enough to be still a continuation but not more of the same. That doesn't sound too easy, and Disney+ isn't even started yet, with those other shows announced they wouldn't drop everything to make more of these, they would need to fit it in. I just hope we don't have to suffer through any reboots, that would be terrible.
 
Marsden said:
I'm assuming that 2 years is already started as soon as the announcements.
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No, if it's anything like the publishing contracts I mentioned earlier, it'd be 2 years after the release of the last installment. Announcements don't matter, because nobody makes money from them. What matters is the actual work itself, and how long the distributor gets to have the exclusive right to profit from its sale/release. So the clock starts when it comes out.

Also, there's no reason to expect Disney+ to want to revive the Netflix shows, because Disney+ is being run by the features division of Marvel Studios, and they don't seem to care much about the productions from the TV division.
 
Is there something in the contracts also about how they can't even use the same Actors in the movies either?
 
Anwar said:
I had heard there was something preventing them from even using the same actors, meaning if the MCU integrated them in they'd have to recast. I must've misunderstood.
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I feel like SAG, the actors union, would have serious issues with that sort of clause in the contract.
Marvel would be free to use the actors again in two years... but, then, they would have to renegotiate with the actors, as they would be free of the original contracts.
 
Christopher said:
No, if it's anything like the publishing contracts I mentioned earlier, it'd be 2 years after the release of the last installment. Announcements don't matter, because nobody makes money from them. What matters is the actual work itself, and how long the distributor gets to have the exclusive right to profit from its sale/release. So the clock starts when it comes out.

Also, there's no reason to expect Disney+ to want to revive the Netflix shows, because Disney+ is being run by the features division of Marvel Studios, and they don't seem to care much about the productions from the TV division.
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They are also not part of Disney+'s target audience, they're going for more of a family audience.
Honestly, I don't know if I'd want to see the shows revived on Disney+, they'd have to be toned down and revamped so much that they'd probably be barely recognizable as the same shows.

I wonder if the contract prevents them from using just these version of the characters or the characters in general? Theoretically, could Marvel retcon these shows out of existence, which really wouldn't be hard since they were barely in the MCU as it is, and introduce totally different versions?
 
Turtletrekker said:
Marvel can't use the characters in any non-Netflix production for two years after cancellation.
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I wouldn't be surprised if said clause has a "big pile of cash" sub-clause that means Marvel can have the characters back sooner if they back a dumptruck full of cash up to Netflix's front door. In which case it's a profit/loss calculation for Disney. Personally, I think they're more likely to just wait out the 2 years since it's not like they have a shortage of material in their back pockey, and if they bring back Daredevil after a two year absence the fan hype will be nuts.
 
It would seem that the Netflix shows coming to Disney+ is not entirely out of the question after all.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...fox-acquisition-new-streaming-service-1169862

Disney's Kevin Mayer calls them high quality shows and that reviving them is definitely a possibility, although such has not been discussed yet.

Also discussed is the possibility of Disney eventually owning 100% of Hulu, which could provide another potential home for the shows.
 
And I could see where it wouldn't be any kind of an immediate priority considering they would have to wait two years at any rate.
 
Turtletrekker said:
And I could see where it wouldn't be any kind of an immediate priority considering they would have to wait two years at any rate.
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TV production takes quite a while. The Netflix Marvel shows were first announced 18 months before Daredevil premiered, and they were probably already in development for some time before they were announced, since it would've taken time to work out their plans and assemble all the paperwork before they were ready to go public.

So if Disney+ wanted to be able to bring these shows back in 2 years, then it would certainly be a good idea to start making plans within the next few months.
 
Christopher said:
TV production takes quite a while. The Netflix Marvel shows were first announced 18 months before Daredevil premiered, and they were probably already in development for some time before they were announced, since it would've taken time to work out their plans and assemble all the paperwork before they were ready to go public.

So if Disney+ wanted to be able to bring these shows back in 2 years, then it would certainly be a good idea to start making plans within the next few months.
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I wonder if the two year thing prevents development. Since Netflix "has" the characters for two more years, could Disney develop something they don't "have"?
 
Turtletrekker said:
Marvel can't use the characters in any non-Netflix production for two years after cancellation.
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So, like, what does that mean?

Can they start filming a Charlie Cox DD season 4 next month and just not release it until October 2020?

Can they write all the scripts for it and do all the casting and just not start filming until Oct 2020?

Or can they not even start any writing or planning for it until Oct 2020, let alone filming, which would put a release well into 2022 at the earliest.


If it's that first one, then we might be in decent shape. You'd barely expect a DD Season 4 much earlier than Oct 2020 anyways.



That brief moment of optimism aside, I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that we're never going to see this version of Daredevil (and Luke, Jessica, etc) ever again. (well, at least never again after Punisher S2 and JJ S3.)

Sad, but I guess this is what happens when you get a messy divorce.


JD said:
Honestly, I don't know if I'd want to see the shows revived on Disney+, they'd have to be toned down and revamped so much that they'd probably be barely recognizable as the same shows.
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I would love Love LOVE to see Punisher on Disney+.

He could walk around calling bad guys meanie-faces and telling them to turn themselves in to the police. And he could even drop some Home Alone-style paint cans on their heads!

It would be glorious!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
So I finally finished Season 3 a few days ago.

Quick take- I think this was my favorite season of any Marvel Netflix show yet, ahead of even the first seasons of DD and JJ.

It was just great from start to finish. Kingpin was fantastic, Bullseye was as perfect as you'd want him to be. The Karen episode was actually one of my favorites of the season. I was actually disappointed when it cut back to present day halfway through the episode. Agent Nadeem was a great addition to the cast. Good character and good story. And a great showing from his wife in the final episode too, that was a twist I did not see coming!

And that hallway fight scene was just amazing. I immediately went back and watched it again!

Very sad if this is the end. But I'll be sad with a huge smile on my face, because this was a superb way to wrap everything up.
 
Sorry to bump up the thread but I've been trying to find if Melvin Potter is dead in the freezer or not.

The internets seem to think he isn't but that frozen bald guy sure looks like him to me. Why bother to get an actor to sit there and be dead that looks so much like another character.

I understand that this version of any of the characters may never be referenced again and they left it open if they want him to be dead or not but is that what everyone else thinks, too?

I saw one article that said "no, he was taken into custody by the FBI so he's not dead" which I find really weak reasoning after we just watched a whole season of corrupt FBI working as Kingpin's enforcers.
 
It's been a long time but I'm pretty sure it was the cleaning crew that killed the girl that were in the freezer.
 
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