I hope this is not a redundant question but I was wondering if there has ever been a continuation of the Temporal Cold War and the character of Daniels in Trek Literature. I thought this was a very interesting premise and had hoped to see some stories in print. Was this storyline wrapped up in the Enterprise show?
Daniels and the Temporal Cold War in Trek Literature
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Hopefully future Enterprise books will touch on this. Right now they seem to be focusing on the Romulan War/Birth of the Federation storyline (which is what Enterprise should have been about from the beginning at any rate).
Well it basically 'ended' with that two-part episode set during an alternate-history WWII, where the Enterprise crew defeated the aliens who were screwing with the past. Daniels basically said that the TCW was over, and hopefully it doesn't come back again. I don't think it necessarily needs to be revisited.
^Ditto. They should leave the Temporal Cold War, ...ahem...in the past. It was a weak storyline that never seemed to really be handled properly. On with the Romulan War and the birth of the Federation
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From what I remember of the end of that two-parter, they didn't even leave room to reopen the TCW at all, which I think is a plus.
It may well be over but to my mind, there's always the aftermath to explore. The Xindi attack was explored in Last Full Measure and gets a mention from time to time. What became of the Suliban and Tandaran conflict? Does the fact an alternate 1944 never happened mean Silik is still out there plotting and trying to get back in touch with his ally? One particular bug bear for ENT fans like me, is exactly who Future Guy was. It would be nice if Pocket Books revived that character... maybe have him trying to instigate some event to do with the Romulan War. That proposed intention came from Brannon Braga at this year's Vegas Con.
Large scale return to the Temporal Cold War, I wouldn't want... but that original faction operating in the 22nd Century and screwing up the history Archer was making with every light-year? Hmmm perhaps, if it's got some interesting pay-off for Silik & FG and could be tied into where ENT is currently at...
Large scale return to the Temporal Cold War, I wouldn't want... but that original faction operating in the 22nd Century and screwing up the history Archer was making with every light-year? Hmmm perhaps, if it's got some interesting pay-off for Silik & FG and could be tied into where ENT is currently at...
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By its very nature, the Temporal Cold War isn't limited to one era. The "front" of the TCW being fought in the 2150s was resolved in 2154, but we know it has other battle fronts being waged in other historical eras, past and future, and that its participants came from many different eras in the past and future. From the perspective of linear time, it's impossible to say the TCW is ever permanently "over," at least until you reach the end of the "front" that's furthest in the future -- and the furthest one we know of is in the 31st century. So there's always the possibility of the TCW being revisited, if not in ENT then in other series.
In fact, fittingly, one can make a case that it was "revisited" before it was even created. In a DC Comics TOS story written a decade before ENT premiered, Howard Weinstein brought back Gary Seven and revealed that he was a member of the Aegis, an organization dedicated to protecting history from other time-travelling factions that sought to change it. This was no doubt based on Roddenberry's original premise for "Assignment: Earth" as a standalone series, but Howie's description of the Aegis (built on by Greg Cox in his Gary Seven books) can fit perfectly into the Temporal Cold War concept.
In fact, fittingly, one can make a case that it was "revisited" before it was even created. In a DC Comics TOS story written a decade before ENT premiered, Howard Weinstein brought back Gary Seven and revealed that he was a member of the Aegis, an organization dedicated to protecting history from other time-travelling factions that sought to change it. This was no doubt based on Roddenberry's original premise for "Assignment: Earth" as a standalone series, but Howie's description of the Aegis (built on by Greg Cox in his Gary Seven books) can fit perfectly into the Temporal Cold War concept.
Yep - I had exchanged a few emails on this very subject with Marco last year, but then the movie and repeated editorial firings got in the way of me taking it beyond that to any actual pitches... But the upshot was that Marco was open to it if the right ideas came along.
Whether the current mystery editors still are... Who knows?
I had submitted a pitch for a book which would pick up a thread from the TCW as a means of launching into my story, but I imagine it got lost in the editorial shuffle. Maybe I'll be able to resubmit it one of these days.
Instead of the TCW, can someone work the Xindi into the 24th century, please? It's bothering me that we never hear from them, but they're really close to Federation space (if not bordering it).
If not inside it, given how the Federation sprawls over time.
I just kinda assumed they're now (24th Century) proud UFP members. Yeah, they fought a (one-ship) war, but the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites weren't exactly "friendly" at first either.
Wasn't there a Xindi crew member in The Sky's the Limit someplace? Of course, that would only count as a cameo.
Not a crew member. In the opening story, "Meet With Triumph and Disaster," we briefly met the Respectable Lady Svaath Magodin, a Xindi Reptilian who was the UFP's Secretary of Science and Space Exploration as of late 2363.
There were at least two Daniels/TCW-related stories that showed up in volumes of Strange New Worlds. "Cabin E-14" was an Enterprise tale about Phlox poking around in Daniel's empty cabin, and there was a TNG crew-meets-Daniels story in another volume (can't remember title, though)
The TCW was wrapped up in a two parter that explained nothing about why it started or who future guy was. Only a faction was defeated and the war was over? Why? What about the Tholians, Humans, Sphere builders and Suliban involvement? Lots to explore here if you ask me.
At the very least I would like to find out 1) who Future Guy is, and 2) what exactly the hell Daniels meant when (in response to somebody asking him if he was human) he said "More or less."
I thought there was an indirect answer in the episode where the Enterprise crew first met the Tholians, who wanted the derilect they'd come across, which included a corpse from the future that was a hybrid of several different species. The indirect answer I got from that is that in Daniels' time, interbreeding between species was fairly common, and many people had a little of multiple species in their background.
^Daniels also seemed to have some special abilities, such as coming back from the dead and such. It's possible that humans in his time have overcome their prejudices against genetic and bionic modification of the human form and have become transhuman.
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