Guy in his early 20s in not liking non-space battle things blowing up Star Trek movie shocker.
D MINUS for TMP
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RobertScorpio
Pariah
Well, that maybe true, but it didn't do to well with the real reviewers either when it came out all those years ago.
Ro
Same here. No masterpiece and BH actually has some pretty major problems, but just a lot of fun with some nice effects.
I think TMP is a much better movie though. But BH is more fun.
Maybe I'm borderline autistic (my wife thinks I am because I ignore her), but the only thing I got out of your whole review was the weird rating system. If each of you was rating on a 1-10 score, then why did you convert it to a total of 150 points? 150 points isn't a very common scale to use, either. Why not just divide your total score (16.2) by 30 (total possible score; 3 x 10)? You would then come up with your actual rating = 54%, instead of 56%, which is incorrect.
Doug
Except for two fx shots, TMP SLV is probably my top favorite movie of all time. It was one of the first films I ever saw in the theater (Star Wars being the actual first.) It was also one of the first real introduction to Star Trek. There is just something about that movie that keeps drawing me in. The DE is a horrible version. It's sound mix destroys part of what I loved about the movie and it cut some very important lines.
ST-One
Vice Admiral
That 'SLV' is a TV-edit.
I assume you talk about the actual theatrical version that you have seen in the cinema?
Ah, you, of course, talk about the confirmation of the atheistic world view 'We all create god in our own image.'
I did see the Theatrical version in the theaters but I was always allowed to stay up when TMP was on TV so that is the version I know and remember. The first VHS copy of it I got was the SLV and it is my favorite.
Creating God in our own image is not necessarly an atheistic view. There is a pharse a lot of Christisns use: "Putting God in a box." It is essentially the same thing. But that is not the only line that I miss.
Creating God in our own image is not necessarly an atheistic view. There is a pharse a lot of Christisns use: "Putting God in a box." It is essentially the same thing. But that is not the only line that I miss.
Some of us were in our early twenties in 1979!
Well I'm in my 20s and after just watching the new movie for only the second time (first time since it came out), the space battles are definitely one of my least favourite parts. They drove me nuts with how crowded and flashy they were.
I couldn't tell where the hell anyone involved was, who was shooting at who, etc. And for me the most thrilling moments in all Star Trek movies and shows have been interactions between characters that involve at least some dialogue instead of just fighting.
I couldn't tell where the hell anyone involved was, who was shooting at who, etc. And for me the most thrilling moments in all Star Trek movies and shows have been interactions between characters that involve at least some dialogue instead of just fighting.
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I'm also in my early 20s. My complaints about The Motion Picture stem from problems with the acting, pacing, and writing of the film, not from a lack of explosions. (In general, I prefer 1930s and 40s romantic comedies, melodramas, and detective films, none of which are rife with paroxysms of fire.)
When I saw it recently, I was stunned by the poor quality of the acting; only William Shatner's was somewhat believable (I didn't see McCoy's scenes). None of the actors were helped by the dismal dialogue and shockly misguided direction, but I'm amazed that the performances of even the bit players were considered acceptable. It's a terrible movie, held up only slightly by its music and beautiful model effects.
In the interests of disclosure, my favorite Star Trek movies are, in order:
1. The Wrath of Khan
2. Star Trek
3. Generations (TV edit)
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. The Voyage Home
When I saw it recently, I was stunned by the poor quality of the acting; only William Shatner's was somewhat believable (I didn't see McCoy's scenes). None of the actors were helped by the dismal dialogue and shockly misguided direction, but I'm amazed that the performances of even the bit players were considered acceptable. It's a terrible movie, held up only slightly by its music and beautiful model effects.
In the interests of disclosure, my favorite Star Trek movies are, in order:
1. The Wrath of Khan
2. Star Trek
3. Generations (TV edit)
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. The Voyage Home
My only gripe with the DE was that they used a different bit of McCoy talking to Kirk in his quarters, the original one was made with a better version. The DE one was dry.
RobertScorpio
Pariah
I have to say that on my friends TV, it was a great print. The starfields were incredible and the entire 'kirk/enterprise' love scene was very majestic and crisp.
But there is definately a 'sanitized' feel to this movie that may have been intended, but NOT a good way to get a movie series off and running. Bloated was what Jed came away with, and in hindsight, he may have a point (and a complaint reviewers of the time made as well)
Rob
