Pretty simple: Chewie isn't human.
News Coutts: Discovery and Keyla Detmer
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Leia's racist. She calls Chewie a "walking carpet" to his face, while arguing with Han in ESB she comments "I'd just as soon kiss a Wookiee" and even in TFA at the end of the movie she hugs Rey and completely ignores Chewie.
Big 3? You mean Burnham, Stamets, Saru, (new captain character), Ash/Tyler, and Tilly?
Take out Stamets and Tilly and yes. I will admit it's not really a big three situation here. I still think they can do a better job developing the supporting cast.
If she's the chief engineer, why does her arrowhead have the science division insignia?Yeah, she's only the chief engineer, why the hell would she get a medal?
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20180220031149&path-prefix=en
For that matter, why is it the only time we ever saw her in engineering was the one time everyone from the bridge (including Detmer, Owosekun, Rhys, and the other guy on the bridge) randomly showed up in engineering for a conference with the main cast?
Because Discovery is a science vessel? Who knows? I just know that she's the only person on the bridge whose normal workstation includes interfaces for the spore drive, the warp drive and the ship's deflector shields. So Ariam is basically Scotty (and Stamets is more of a Barclay)
But again, we've never seen Ariam in engineering with the exception of the one time everyone went there. Also, Equinox was a science vessel. It's chief engineer was still an engineering officer.
I'm not convinced we've ever actually SEEN Discovery's engine room. When Lorca site-to-sites there with Burnham he calls it "Engineering Bay Three" so what we usually see is probably just the power core for the spore drive itself. Which would make a lot of sense, considering there's a huge spore garden is literally right next to it in the adjacent corridor. Ariam's turf is probably in another (very similar) engine room, except hers doesn't have a bunch of spore canisters in the wall or a giant phone booth in the middle of the room.
Enterprise WAS NOT a science vessel and its XO was a science officer (compare with, say, Riker or Chakotay who were both command officers). This is also true of USS Shenzhou; Burnham is apparently Georgiou's first officer even though she is also a science officer. Seems like the 23rd century command structure is a bit more flexible than in later eras.
Relatedly: who exactly WAS the Enterprise-D's science officer? For that matter, who was Voyager's?
Where did you get that from? Memory alpha says she the spore drive ops officer which makes sense because she wears a science uniform and the spore drive seems to be primarily run by the science department. I'd still expect the chief engineer to wear operations bronze.Yeah, she's only the chief engineer, why the hell would she get a medal?
I was under this impression as well. I recall them calling it the 'Engineering Lab' or something, but it was probably 'Engineering Bay Three' as you say. I had figured that room was was one of the engineering work rooms or something where they were testing the tech for the Spore Drive, and the actual Engineering room was where the actual chief engineer was working the whole time. And given that Memory Alpha lists Ariam as Spore Driver Operations Officer, I'd assume she wasn't actually the Chief of Engineering, but like a separate helmsman that only worked with the Spore Drive since it was experimental technology. I had the same thinking that the sickbay we see is actually just a section of a larger sickbay and that's why we never see the CMO around, but I don't think there's anything in the dialogue that backs that up.
Maybe we'll see more of the ship as time goes on and they build more sets, to keep each season looking 'fresh'. Kind of like how Agents of SHIELD is using different parts of their base right now or replacing the bus in previous seasons, for example.
I had figured that Data covered the position of Science Officer on the bridge, like how Spock was First Officer/Science Officer. Samantha Wildman was present on the bridge back in the day, so she could have been the Science Officer. Seven of Nine was basically the Science Officer in later seasons, whether or not she had a title.
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And I'd expect the first officer to wear command gold, but Saru is still wearing silver.
I just figure an experimental vessel with an experimental drive would make the entire engineering department when big experiment. The ops officers are mainly security and helmsmen because they're using more conventional systems in those cases. And Lorca is... well, Lorca.
Nope, he wore silver on the Shenzhou only and switched to gold starting with Context is for Kings.
Anyway, there's nothing suggesting Airiam is the chief engineer.
Gold allergy.
Read the damn post I wrote. I didn't say Enterprise, I said Equinox. You know, from the Voyager two-part episode of the same name? The Equinox most definitely was a science vessel, as stated in dialogue on screen:
And it's chief engineer is most definitely an engineering officer, as evidenced by her gold uniform:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Marla_Gilmore
Though I'm sure you'll find a way to argue with that.
Michael Burnham was solely Shenzhou's XO, Saru was the science officer. Yes, when she serves on Discovery it is in the science division, but that has no bearing on her time on the Shenzhou, at least not during Vulcan Hello/Binary Stars.
Voyager's science officer was Samantha Wildman.
Indeed so. Hell, his Profile Picture on his Memory Alpha page even shows him wearing gold complete with a command division insignia on his arrowhead.
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I didn't say Equinox, I said Enterprise. You know, that Constitution class starship whose first officer wore a blue uniform and wasn't part of the command division even though he occasionally wound up in command of the entire ship for some reason?
And Samantha Wildman isn't Voyager's first officer. More to the point, Data -- who acts as a science officer in most cases -- doesn't wear a science division uniform.
Just saying, Starfleet seems to have a certain amount of flexibility in filling its crew positions.
Oh yeah, I caught that. It seems damned odd you would talk about the Enterprise in response to someone talking about the Equinox, but whatever, if that's the card you want to play.
Didn't say she was.
Why? Equinox was over a hundred years later.
And the Enterprise -- which was not a science vessel -- had a science officer for its XO. So it's not that much of a stretch to imagine that a science vessel with an experimental new drive system would employ a science officer as its chief engineer.
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