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Countdown #4 preview (and review - SPOILERS!)

So the TPB is out? I have been looking for that. Now that I see there is corrections made. Anything cool after the last comic in it? I'm just curious. I just bought the last issue yesterday, so I'm going to read it soon and then look for the TPB again. Hopefully I will find it.

If all else fails, try a bookstore next week. The big chains have their own TPB section and since Countdown is tied to the movie, I imagine it might have a special display. Last time I was at my local Borders, it was wall to wall Watchmen.
 
so the narada and spock go thru the black hole and emerge in the past. The narada then takes out the kelvin, as kirk is born.

Then what? he waits around for 20 odd years for the enterprise to be built and kirk get older and stuff?

What about spock, he lives for another 20 years in the past just waiting for kirk to show u on that ice planet?

I hope they explain some of that.
 
so the narada and spock go thru the black hole and emerge in the past. The narada then takes out the kelvin, as kirk is born.

Then what? he waits around for 20 odd years for the enterprise to be built and kirk get older and stuff?

What about spock, he lives for another 20 years in the past just waiting for kirk to show u on that ice planet?

I hope they explain some of that.

Maybe the Narada pops in and out of certain years so to Nero and Spock there isn't any long passage of time? One minute they're in 2233 as Kirk is being born...the next it's 2250-something and the Narada is attacking San Francisco. But to Nero and Spock perhaps no more than a few hours or days have transpired?

We ARE talking time travel here.
 
If Nero's been squirreled away in a Klingon prison in the 23rd century for a couple decades or more, it could explain his "I've been waiting for this day my whole life, this day of reckoning," comment. Even O'Brien turned into a murderer in his fabricated period of incarceration in "Hard Time".
 
* Nero´s ship Narada is a bit overpowered in Countdown #4. Cloaking and defeating an entire klingon fleet is too much.
 
If Nero's been squirreled away in a Klingon prison in the 23rd century for a couple decades or more, it could explain his "I've been waiting for this day my whole life, this day of reckoning," comment.

I'm not even sure that's actually his line. It plays in the trailer over the image of his face, but doesn't sound like him.
 
Then we have his "the wait is over" line from the first full trailer, where he seems to be wearing the same rags as in the clip when he's wrestling with the masked Klingons.

It's true that Nero doesn't sound much like Eric Bana, but then, he's done a nice job of concealing his accent behind a raspy growl.
 
so the narada and spock go thru the black hole and emerge in the past. The narada then takes out the kelvin, as kirk is born.

Then what? he waits around for 20 odd years for the enterprise to be built and kirk get older and stuff?

What about spock, he lives for another 20 years in the past just waiting for kirk to show u on that ice planet?

I hope they explain some of that.
Did they show them both emerge in the past? Maybe Nero emerges in front of the Kelvin and Spock emerges twenty years later.

Although the accidental meeting between Spocks referred to as "an accident in time," IIRC, in some interviews reminds me of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure (a movie with lots and lots of time-jumping), and therefore jumping around time might make sense.
 
According to Midtown Comics solictations for this week...Star Trek Countdown TPB is coming out this Wendesday which is a pleasant surprise since I thought it was coming out in comic stores next week and in book stores on the 29th. I don't have to wait too much..and it seems the 24th century scenes in the comic are very much in accordance with what they're planning in Star Trek Online.
 
One question:

What happens to the 24th century after Nero and Spock vanish? Does it continue as before? I know that's what TPTB keep saying - that the new timeline won't overwrite the old - but does the comic deal with this in any way?
 
does the comic deal with this in any way?

No, it doesn't. Unless the movie is resolving this issue, we'll never know if Romulus stays destroyed or if Nero and Spock change the timeline and Countdown never happened.

But that would mean that the timeline changes in TOS are also present in TNG, which would be a pretty big reboot. Hmmm ... I'd say we should sacrifice Romulus in favor of OUR timeline! :devil:

Actually, the Romulans loosing their homeworld would be a good idea for a new tv show.
 
I've just got home with a copy of the trade paperback nestled in my hot little hands and I am eagerly taking in all the pretty pictures for the first time. Spock was just addressing the Romulan senate and now Nero has just stepped up to the plate.

Looks great!
 
I've just got home with a copy of the trade paperback nestled in my hot little hands and I am eagerly taking in all the pretty pictures for the first time. Spock was just addressing the Romulan senate and now Nero has just stepped up to the plate.

Looks great!

Does the Senate look like it did in NEMESIS? Or were there changes to show the passage of seven years and other liberties taken?
 
Gotta say, as a cartoonist I love the art for this comic. By one David Messina, btw. :)
 
If Nero's been squirreled away in a Klingon prison in the 23rd century for a couple decades or more, it could explain his "I've been waiting for this day my whole life, this day of reckoning," comment.

I'm not even sure that's actually his line. It plays in the trailer over the image of his face, but doesn't sound like him.


Yes, the compilation is available in your friendly local comic shop. I'd call ahead and make sure they put one aside for you.
 
I've just got home with a copy of the trade paperback nestled in my hot little hands and I am eagerly taking in all the pretty pictures for the first time. Spock was just addressing the Romulan senate and now Nero has just stepped up to the plate.

Looks great!

Does the Senate look like it did in NEMESIS? Or were there changes to show the passage of seven years and other liberties taken?

I have only vague memories of how the senate appeared in Nemesis, and I can't find a good shot of it at the moment to really compare, but I can tell you that the external shot of the buildings with the concentric design looked the same. Inside the actual senate - it looked darker than I remembered it in Nemesis.
 
I got the TPB yesterday from Amazon. The artwork is good, and the story is OK but nothing special, IMO.

I don't regret buying it, but it didn't really leave me wanting to follow them through the black hole.

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Yeah I thought the artwork was really nice. It's been a while since I've read any comics, but in the old-days you often got some quality full-colour artwork on the covers, but inside it was often done alot more quickly, even if it was still colour (and mostly it wasn't). This is like cover quality all the way through.

The story was ok, but it was a bit fanboyish. At some points it feels like a role-call of all your favourite TNG characters.
 
does the comic deal with this in any way?

No, it doesn't. Unless the movie is resolving this issue, we'll never know if Romulus stays destroyed or if Nero and Spock change the timeline and Countdown never happened.

But it does deal with it in a subtle way. The story doesn't end with Spock and Nero sucked into the blackhole. It ends with Picard and Data aboard the Enterprise-E mourning the "death" of Spock.

If Spock and Nero had prevented the destruction of Romulus then Picard and Data wouldn't be mourning Spock's demise because it never would have happened. Nero would never have gone on his rampage and put them in the situation they were in because the star would never have exploded setting the whole story into motion in the first place.
 
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