Couldn't Pike have been rebuilt as a cyborg (spoilers for Project Daedalus)

[Timo]

As regards Pike's injuries, the one bit they chose to "keep" was his head. And we saw the condition it was in...

There's every suggestion that Pike's injuries would have been the most serious so far sustained by a Trek character. He's basically a brain in an ugly jar. In comparison, Airiam could be that, too (Dr. Mulhall thinks TOS folks can build perfectly good android bodies for disembodied minds) - but in her case, it's equally plausible that most of her body is intact and she merely needed a new nose and a brain prosthetic.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[BillJ]

Pike in this timeline doesn’t end up in a wheelchair.

 

[Commander Richard]

As regards Pike's injuries, the one bit they chose to "keep" was his head. And we saw the condition it was in...

There's every suggestion that Pike's injuries would have been the most serious so far sustained by a Trek character. He's basically a brain in an ugly jar. In comparison, Airiam could be that, too (Dr. Mulhall thinks TOS folks can build perfectly good android bodies for disembodied minds) - but in her case, it's equally plausible that most of her body is intact and she merely needed a new nose and a brain prosthetic.

Her hands were also covered. She could be a severe burn victim with little or no skin left and sustained other injuries in addition to that, with the brain being one of those parts affected.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Those sensors are way more sensitive and precise than they should realistically be (oops, was that a split infinitive?).

Kor

Your syntax is honourable.

 

[Yistaan]

As someone forced to use my own cybernetic parts (hearing aids), I don't feel sci-fi writers understand that mechanical parts just make their universe look less advanced, not more. A true futuristic society would have advanced biomedical/cloning treatment, a world where I don't have hearing aids but my cochlea and cochlear hair cells genetically treated and regenerated to be normal.

It would have saved a lot on TOS budget too.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Maybe there wasn't enough left of Airiam for that?

The reality is that it looks cool to have a cyborg onboard.

 

[FreezeC77]

As someone forced to use my own cybernetic parts (hearing aids), I don't feel sci-fi writers understand that mechanical parts just make their universe look less advanced, not more. A true futuristic society would have advanced biomedical/cloning treatment, a world where I don't have hearing aids but my cochlea and cochlear hair cells genetically treated and regenerated to be normal.

It would have saved a lot on TOS budget too.

I never understood why Picard had an artificial heart and not a grown/replicated duplicate of his original biological heart.

As for this cybernetic stuff suddenly disappearing. I think it would take more than one person being hacked. If almost every cybernetic enhanced person was turned into a suicide bomber resulting in hundreds of thousands or more deaths, that could be a reason to abandon the tech.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Pike in this timeline doesn’t end up in a wheelchair.

Is this speculation or have I missed something? I'd love it if he didn't end up in that wheelchair, btw. It feels like a different timeline to me, too.

 

[BillJ]

Is this speculation or have I missed something? I'd love it if he didn't end up in that wheelchair, btw. It feels like a different timeline to me, too.

I treat it as a separate timeline, just too much has changed in tech and society for the two to fit together. TPTB say it is all one timeline.

Listen to your heart.

 

[fireproof78]

I treat it as a separate timeline, just too much has changed in tech and society for the two to fit together. TPTB say it is all one timeline.

Listen to your heart.

Never trusted my heart.

 

[BillJ]

Never trusted my heart.

Then treat it in whatever manner that gives you the most enjoyment.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

I treat it as a separate timeline, just too much has changed in tech and society for the two to fit together. TPTB say it is all one timeline.

Listen to your heart.

I just thought this was a thing that was actually happening, which I might have missed.

I'm 100% with you on the timeline thing.

 

[fireproof78]

Then treat it in whatever manner that gives you the most enjoyment.

Already do.

One timeline, save for the Kelvin films, and the Mirror Universe

 

[BillJ]

One timeline, save for the Kelvin films, and the Mirror Universe

I see it all as a vast multi-verse.

 

[fireproof78]

I see it all as a vast multi-verse.

Well it is. But, I think the events are more important than apperance. So, what we saw in TOS took place after DSC.

 

[BillJ]

So, what we saw in TOS took place after DSC.

Beep Beep.

 

[fireproof78]

Beep Beep.

You asked

 

[CommanderRaytas]

I see it all as a vast multi-verse.

I do, too. To me, every show is in a different continuity, except ENT and the Kelvin films. Those are the same timeline.

I don't know why, though. It just makes me happy.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Beep Beep.

Is that a double yes?

They couldn't rebuild him. They didn't have the technology.

[Dr. Evil]
And besides, it would cost six MILLION dollars!
[/Dr. Evil]

 

[USS Triumphant]

No two injuries are alike, especially not "mangled in a shuttle crash" and "space-radiation poisoning." One of the novels proposed that Pike's injuries included an exotic type of Locked-In Syndrome so he couldn't send more than a couple of very limited voluntary nerve signals. At this point, we have to assume that Pike's condition was a result of his injuries, and not a technical limitation. So attempting a full-body prosthesis like Airiam got would just give him a shiny blue body where he could still do one thing two ways. Maybe instead of "beeb" and "beep beep," they could wire it up so he could rotate his forearm clockwise or counter-clockwise, and give everybody a thumbs up or thumbs down.

Honestly, it would *have* to be something like this, and I hate to break it to anyone wanting to add this to a list of "problems with Discovery", but Discovery didn't create this discrepancy. Time and technological development in the real world did. I was wondering why Pike was confined to the beep beep chair in the 23rd century when we could do better for someone who was merely physically mangled *the first time I saw the episode in the early 80's*.