Could the Star Trek Universe Get the Same Treatment as Marvel?

[Enterprise1701]

I'm guessing people have raised this concept before on this forum, but I am unaware of the responses because I have only been on this forum for less than a year, so I ask: what would be the probable effect of making a new TV series/film without "Star Trek" in the title?

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm guessing people have raised this concept before on this forum, but I am unaware of the responses because I have only been on this forum for less than a year, so I ask: what would be the probable effect of making a new TV series/film without "Star Trek" in the title?

Enterprise actually left "Star Trek" out of the title for the first two seasons, it really was just called "Enterprise." It was a request from UPN feeling that the Star Trek name would scare away viewers who would be afraid of all the continuity associated with it. By the third season with the ratings tanking, UPN requested the Star Trek name be added making the show "Star Trek: Enterprise" feeling the brand recognition of the Star Trek name would bring in viewers.

Since the whole fiasco resulted in one of the more embarrassing examples of executives at UPN and Paramount not having a clue (even Rick Berman publicly called them out for their stupidity) we're unlikely to ever see another Trek production without Star Trek in the name.

 

[OpenMaw]

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

He probably believed the actions he was taking was the best for the Federation.

The premise is a flawed one, though. Marcus could have absolutely taken Kirk's surrender offer instead of going right to Evil Villainy "I was never gonna spare your crew!" Well it's nice to know that you didn't seek any way to avoid destroying one of the most powerful and advanced ships in your fleet, along with it's entire crew. Very forward thinking for your war effort, Marcus!

I really do wish Marcus had been given more dimension. Weller is a great actor, and what he was given he took as far as he could. Had the character been given more scenes with his daughter, or at the very least been given more of a chance to lay out why he was doing what he was doing, I think it would have benefitted the dimension and truly been the "Good man making the bad choices." That he was supposed to be. I think trumping up some Klingon atrocities, making it personal and immediate for someone, somewhere, would have been good.

Hell, maybe the Klingons killed Carol's mom when she was off doing something on a Federation colony. Instead of making it about vengeance though.

I propose taking a page out of The Doomsday Machine, and model Marcus off of the Decker mold. Decker was motivated by guilt and a sense of duty to protect the Federation, but his way of going about that was clouded and thusly desperate, foolhardy, and nearly got a grand total of 800+ people killed. I think some elements from that would have made Marcus a much more enjoyable and complicated character.

As it is I don't see anything "good" about Marcus. Well, okay, one thing. He did beam his daughter to safety. There's just no counter-balance to any of his bad actions. He's built a secret super death ship, plotted to start a war with the Klingons, plotted to kill an entire crew of innocent people, used Khan, and was fully prepared to secretly murder Khan's people.

 

[xavier]

2016 is going to be hot year. marvel just added iron man to captain america 3 and batman v superman is as hyped as ever. I really hope trek 3 is spectacular, I will hate for it to get lost in the crowd ion 2016.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Hell, maybe the Klingons killed Carol's mom when she was off doing something on a Federation colony.

I find that VERY likely.

My biggest problem with that whole last bit with Marcus is how he treated Carol. If he'd acted like a decent father who was trying to protect his family, I'd have more sympathy for him.

I do love Weller's line about "Aw, shit, you TALKED to him!" Only he could have delivered a line like that.