Could the "new" villain be....????
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The role has been described as "iconic". I don't believe Jim Kirk's older brother falls into this category.
Khan.
I know, I know...it was just a random thought, however, do you think Kirk's brother in some way could be a villain given the right circumstances? I mean all the attention, all the praise and glory given to Jim Kirk, where as his brother is living in his shadow and be becomes so enraged and tired of it....yes...no?
Depends on the nature of the man. A certain amount of envy regarding a sibling who has achieved high status and prestige is understandable. But for that to consume your whole being and twist you into someone bent on their downfall? Hmmm. Unless Jim seriously aggrieved him in the past and as a consequence stuffed up his own chances of success, I don't see a plausible motivation.
Hell, I say ride on the coattails. Jim Kirk saved the planet - and he's your brother! You could have a bevy of hot chicks wanting to nail you as the next best thing to Captain Fantastic himself!
Hell, I say ride on the coattails. Jim Kirk saved the planet - and he's your brother! You could have a bevy of hot chicks wanting to nail you as the next best thing to Captain Fantastic himself!
I think the new villain(s) are Quark and Rom. Quark gets another ship and enlists Rom help to check things out, and wouldn't you know it, they travel back in time...again.
Hijinks ensue.
It's box office gold.
Hijinks ensue.
It's box office gold.
It is no doubt Khan, but not as we knew him. He won't have the hatred of kirk burned into him, so Kirk will have to piss him off in some other fashion. They cannot mess with his origin in the Eugenics Wars [other than perhaps changing the date they occurred], otherwise we'll know the JJverse has no connection at all with the original timeline since the wars supposedly happened pre- Nero incursion- and the reboot will fall completely apart.
Since they pulled things from novels for the first movie, there may not be a need to change the dates since there are a series of novels that justify that the Eugenics Wars did indeed happen in the 1990s and melds them with real world events of the time- and did it very well.
Since they pulled things from novels for the first movie, there may not be a need to change the dates since there are a series of novels that justify that the Eugenics Wars did indeed happen in the 1990s and melds them with real world events of the time- and did it very well.
Unless he's on PCP or something to explain how...
...he can brush off a phaser blast at point blank range, then mop the floor with Spock, and be able to shrug off a Vulcan neck pinch like it's nothing.
Sam has already been introduced in the comic tie-in, surviving "Operation: Annhilate", and the artists made him look like a longhaired version of George Kirk Sr (ie. actor Chris Hemsworth, not Mr Cumberbatch).
George Kirk Jr by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
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I believe Cumberbatch will play Decius. He was the young ambitious Romulan in 'Balance of Terror'. Cumberbatch even looks like the actor who played him. He was the same guy who played Stonn in 'Amok Time'.
Two Romulan baddies in a row? Nah.
My current theory (subject to change in the next five minutes):
The Enterprise is sent to hunt down a rogue Starfleet ship in Klingon space, whose crew includes Captain Peter Weller, Dr. Elizabeth Dehner (Alice Eve) and Ben Cumberbatch.
It'll turn out this ship's senior staff are all Section 31 members and they're up to no good, trying to hurt the Klingon Empire somehow, probably involving bombs in volcanoes. It will be discovered that Cumberbatch is an Augment superbaby that S31 had hatched and tried to domesticate (similar to Gary Seven's attempts with Khan in the Eugenics Wars books that Bob Orci mentioned reading during the movie's development) and that Sulu is an S31 agent on the Enterprise (as per the possible recruitment scene in the comics) who will have to decide where his loyalties lie.
The Enterprise is sent to hunt down a rogue Starfleet ship in Klingon space, whose crew includes Captain Peter Weller, Dr. Elizabeth Dehner (Alice Eve) and Ben Cumberbatch.
It'll turn out this ship's senior staff are all Section 31 members and they're up to no good, trying to hurt the Klingon Empire somehow, probably involving bombs in volcanoes. It will be discovered that Cumberbatch is an Augment superbaby that S31 had hatched and tried to domesticate (similar to Gary Seven's attempts with Khan in the Eugenics Wars books that Bob Orci mentioned reading during the movie's development) and that Sulu is an S31 agent on the Enterprise (as per the possible recruitment scene in the comics) who will have to decide where his loyalties lie.
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