Neelix and Janeway getting it on?!
Could Neelix have pulled Janeway?
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Only if they did it right.
Alas, I'm already there. I just feel it my duty to throw in an anti-Janeway-gushing comment every once in a while. That is, until you start an Anti-Janeway-Gushing thread so that I can leave these good people alone.
Too true, sir, too true.
This entire thread is horrid. What terrible things to say.
Put yourself in his position froot.
Think about how you would feel, if you were not a hedgehog living in a delusional state of denial, that if you had to conclude that no one thought of you as a sexual being, and that one one would take your advances seriously, and people laughed at your feelings and scoffed at your crushes almost as if it was that you were less of a person who's emotions were second class and fictional?
Obviously it's harder to seduce some people than others, but to think that you have been disqualified as a consort outright for absolutely no reason you can identify must be maddening.
In real life, are there people too good for you that you know you do not deserve to be with because they are vastly better than you?
Of course not.
So why think that poor wee Neelix can't get to live happily ever after with the woman of his dreams just because he hasn't yet worn down her ICY resistance with charm, flowers, chocolate and character?
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Then there's the counter argument, she still looked almost 40 to me when she did Cheers. It's probably that she looks great in her 30s and has accordingly always tried to seem as if she is in her 30s plus because she's never been that youthful a person that it's easier for her to find beauty through dignity than pep.
Where are the jailbait pictures of this woman when she was a girl of 18 and 19?
Neelix actually does okay with women, he was with Kes at the start and as mentioned he pulled the klingon woman when Harry Kim was too much of a wuss (Harry only likes unattainable women so he can keep pining for Tom Paris). Janeway wouldn't get into a relationship with a member of the crew (she breaks the prime directive all the time though) and if did she'd hafta choose Seven of Nine.
You honestly thought i meant the turn of the century between the 1800s and the 1900s when I said 18 to 19?
But if the pictures exist (survive) who am I to pooh pooh her silent film career?
But if the pictures exist (survive) who am I to pooh pooh her silent film career?
That's from a theater gig, which is why is black and white. It's from "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof".
Hey, since I like you, I gave you both. It looks like it was taken between the 1800's and 1900's, and she was almost 18 years old. She was actually 17 years old in that picture.
thankyou very much. 
Consider Lwaxanna Troi, every bit the comic relief Neelix was, and threw herself at Picard before she concluded any sentence she it was to his detriment she uttered. And as unthinkable a union as that might have been considering she carried a torch and almost scored a goal against Odo, that fellow makes Picard look like Hammil's Joker.
That mute Lurch fellow who body guarded made a play for Kira, and Quark didn't assume for a second that there was any doubt that he could acquire Dax, either dax if he just created the right opportunity... wasn't he possessed by a female dax during some hokum ceremony? You don't think he took advantage of that to have had some semblance of congress with "a" Dax?
the mouse that roared, and didn't we just think for a while that Xander had earnt his shot with Buffy because Angel was dead and or evil? But then considering how close Cordelia came to being more the one with Angel than Buffy it's hard to remember how one dimensional she was in the beginning.
Could Twikki pull Col. Wilma Deering?
Consider Lwaxanna Troi, every bit the comic relief Neelix was, and threw herself at Picard before she concluded any sentence she it was to his detriment she uttered. And as unthinkable a union as that might have been considering she carried a torch and almost scored a goal against Odo, that fellow makes Picard look like Hammil's Joker.
That mute Lurch fellow who body guarded made a play for Kira, and Quark didn't assume for a second that there was any doubt that he could acquire Dax, either dax if he just created the right opportunity... wasn't he possessed by a female dax during some hokum ceremony? You don't think he took advantage of that to have had some semblance of congress with "a" Dax?
the mouse that roared, and didn't we just think for a while that Xander had earnt his shot with Buffy because Angel was dead and or evil? But then considering how close Cordelia came to being more the one with Angel than Buffy it's hard to remember how one dimensional she was in the beginning.
Could Twikki pull Col. Wilma Deering?
'Wore down her resistance', 'scored a goal against', 'acquired', 'earnt his shot' - none of that takes into consideration the total right of the other party to not be the least bit interested.
It's not like Janeway - or Dax or Odo or Buffy - is like a puzzle or a VG, and if the person with a crush makes all the right moves in the right order, lights will flash, music will play, and sex will happen. No use at all talking about how much A deserves B, if B has no interest at all in A that way.
It's not like Janeway - or Dax or Odo or Buffy - is like a puzzle or a VG, and if the person with a crush makes all the right moves in the right order, lights will flash, music will play, and sex will happen. No use at all talking about how much A deserves B, if B has no interest at all in A that way.
Yes, I'm very male, but then, so are most men.
These are the thoughts that drive us into a position where women notice us because the meek will not inherit the earth, and probably not inherit anything else either. Peacocks strut and peahens chose (Human women can be peacocks if they want to be, but we're talking about reversing Neelix's gutlessness in telling this one woman he feels destined for, how he dearly feels about her.). It's natural selection. Consider that Roxanne spent 20 years with insubstancial Christian all the while while the architect of that love affair Cyrano rocked back and forth mulling about how pure his love was.
It goes worse than that Janeway has accessed and decided against Neelix as a potential lover, she really saw through him. He was nothing to her. In that light. It didn't seem worth her time to add up his score because lets face it he was about as nonvocal as you can get about being hopelessly devoted to someone... Gods, remember Lennir and Delenn? He stood down down because she was too perfect, and then she went and started going animal planet with a monkey from Earth! Why stand down for a better man if she can't be bothered looking for a better man?! What's the frakking point of standing down for a worse man?
Which brings me to Greys Anatomy.
Poor George.
He ached for Meredeth for almost three seasons. Finally she figured it out after a really bad day all the while that he didn't notice that he was taking advantage of her until the end of their coitus when SHE BAWLED LIKE A BABY because she couldn't cope with the wrongitudity of the issue.
The ultimate rejection.
But perhaps my favourite line from that series some 2 years later addressing this instance, was when Alex said to Merideth "You get drunk and sleep with inappropriate people. It's your thing. It's what you do. I think it's adorable."
By these standards that say that Neelix isn't good enough for Kathryn Janeway, by standards he himself enforces because he thinks he knows how she thinks which is quite presumptuous, Lois Lane is too good for Clark Kent and he should know his place and keep to the personal ads looking for plump matronly aunts who own many cats.
These are the thoughts that drive us into a position where women notice us because the meek will not inherit the earth, and probably not inherit anything else either. Peacocks strut and peahens chose (Human women can be peacocks if they want to be, but we're talking about reversing Neelix's gutlessness in telling this one woman he feels destined for, how he dearly feels about her.). It's natural selection. Consider that Roxanne spent 20 years with insubstancial Christian all the while while the architect of that love affair Cyrano rocked back and forth mulling about how pure his love was.
It goes worse than that Janeway has accessed and decided against Neelix as a potential lover, she really saw through him. He was nothing to her. In that light. It didn't seem worth her time to add up his score because lets face it he was about as nonvocal as you can get about being hopelessly devoted to someone... Gods, remember Lennir and Delenn? He stood down down because she was too perfect, and then she went and started going animal planet with a monkey from Earth! Why stand down for a better man if she can't be bothered looking for a better man?! What's the frakking point of standing down for a worse man?
Which brings me to Greys Anatomy.
Poor George.
He ached for Meredeth for almost three seasons. Finally she figured it out after a really bad day all the while that he didn't notice that he was taking advantage of her until the end of their coitus when SHE BAWLED LIKE A BABY because she couldn't cope with the wrongitudity of the issue.
The ultimate rejection.
But perhaps my favourite line from that series some 2 years later addressing this instance, was when Alex said to Merideth "You get drunk and sleep with inappropriate people. It's your thing. It's what you do. I think it's adorable."
By these standards that say that Neelix isn't good enough for Kathryn Janeway, by standards he himself enforces because he thinks he knows how she thinks which is quite presumptuous, Lois Lane is too good for Clark Kent and he should know his place and keep to the personal ads looking for plump matronly aunts who own many cats.
But, Clark knows he's actually Superman. I'd say there's a bit of a difference in confidence level there.
LOL. Your mind works in weird and wonderful ways, Guy.
In this same vein, could Brian ever pull Lois? (Family Guy.) She knows he wants her so bad but considers him below her and enjoys torturing him. I keep rooting for poor Brian, though.
In the episode where they thought Peter was dead after he became a long haul fisherman, they did "hook up" but Lois was hesitant to go all the way until she got past the ghost of her husband last... Seconds before the credits roll Lois says "Wow, if Peter had been dead for just a couple more days, i was abuot ready to give it to you... and i was going to rock your world."
(But you probably knew this?)
The difference is that Lois knows. EVERYONE knows, there was even an episode where Quagmire explains why he doesn't care for brain, and half of it is that he keeps hitting on Lois.
Galactically stupid.
Everyone is the hero of their own story, and if Neelix can figure out internally that he is some sort of super hero then surely he deserves to get what he has earnt from such a status, look how he overreached in that space elevator story trying to be a hero and almost dooming everyone, but a few years later he rescued that talaxian colony all by himself like he was Roy Rogers. And because that girl living on the colony he saved assumed he was Roy Rogers too... ALL THE TIME, she might not be too Happy to find that her new husband is more so campared to Oliver Hardy than Roy day to day... How the hells is Neelix supposed to live with these people and make babies with one of them when their assessemnt of his character is completely out of touch, since although he did the captain hero thing once, after that he's got naught to do but rest on his laurels as people begin to complain that he used to be some thing or what did they ever see in him if "this" is who he really is, just so ordinairy?
On How I met your mother a few weeks back they divied up couples in every relationship by stating that one is a reacher and the other is a settler, because one half of every couple has to be too good for the other because no one is created absolutely equal down to the tenth placed decimals. It was hilarious watching Marshal trying to trick Lilly into admitting that she settled for him.
(But you probably knew this?)
The difference is that Lois knows. EVERYONE knows, there was even an episode where Quagmire explains why he doesn't care for brain, and half of it is that he keeps hitting on Lois.
but private Clark isn't public Clark either. that's a third personality to factor into your math. Consider, if he isn't Superman or Clark Kent, then who is he but what other people tell him he is when everyone is wrong, because they are telling him that he is both a bumbling dolt who is also the apex of their hopes and dreams? Most certainly in the beginning Clark is this minor bump, obstacle trying to get between her and Superman, and in the episodes of Lois and Clark I watched last night, Teri Hatcher's Lois is rather vocal about how inferior Clark is compared to Superman.
Galactically stupid.
Everyone is the hero of their own story, and if Neelix can figure out internally that he is some sort of super hero then surely he deserves to get what he has earnt from such a status, look how he overreached in that space elevator story trying to be a hero and almost dooming everyone, but a few years later he rescued that talaxian colony all by himself like he was Roy Rogers. And because that girl living on the colony he saved assumed he was Roy Rogers too... ALL THE TIME, she might not be too Happy to find that her new husband is more so campared to Oliver Hardy than Roy day to day... How the hells is Neelix supposed to live with these people and make babies with one of them when their assessemnt of his character is completely out of touch, since although he did the captain hero thing once, after that he's got naught to do but rest on his laurels as people begin to complain that he used to be some thing or what did they ever see in him if "this" is who he really is, just so ordinairy?
On How I met your mother a few weeks back they divied up couples in every relationship by stating that one is a reacher and the other is a settler, because one half of every couple has to be too good for the other because no one is created absolutely equal down to the tenth placed decimals. It was hilarious watching Marshal trying to trick Lilly into admitting that she settled for him.
You just said "seyz". Hehe
Hardly. I seyz you seyz.
We seyz hurray for ice cream?
