Pre-Kolchak even. There does seem to be some movement in CO2 capture http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthread.php?142807-New-quot-MOM-quot-for-CO2-Capture http://www.ulitzer.com/node/2927308 http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=24817 I wonder if this might help http://www.unisci.com/stories/20013/0802016.htm I had no idea about the solar plant wrecked to make weapons in WWI. A little off topic, but I also watched last night's Inside Man--with Morgan Spurlock. He was exploring income inequity, showing how the well to do can afford to take risks a lot of us can't https://flipboard.com/section/morgan-spurlock-inside-man-bryhu2 He did an interview with one of the more favorable one percenters, who was open to the idea of a higher wage. This was a Louisiana attorney who made a killing off Katrina/BP lawsuits or something. A pair of ear-rings were auctioned off, and about 30,000 was raised for a local charity. Earlier, of course, he remembered fondly the first million dollarcheck he wrote to himself--but at least he was more open than the slime running Congress--and the largest check that charity ever got was $1,000, or so. Gusees what big risk he and his were going to take? Investment in oil and gas exploration in Louisiana. Gee, thanks pal This is why you have to make people do things. Then too, the President just using executive orders to do things will give big utilities an excuse to gouge consumers, Obama will get the blame, and a lot of former coal mining union democrats will break ranks. regulation is fine--but innovation is better. Therefore for every dollar oil stock, x dollars of green investments must be required....that may be a smarter way of going about business. These for starters http://cleantechnica.com/2013/04/24...fficiency-potable-water-and-air-conditioning/ http://cleantechnica.com/2014/05/07/solar-jet-fuel-kerosene-sunlight-water-co2/ Yes you will still need kerosene--due to energy density. I thought Neil might talk about carbon's power to hold hydrogen chemically, instead of mechanically--tell a joke about how carbon is the Bill Maher of elements--will bond with anything, and how it gets lonely if it is left alone for too long.