What qualifies as "new?"
How exactly does one detonate a "fleet and everything it stands for". "Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction" good god. "Our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death" 
Not just a chess game a "chess game of life and death!" An "epic" "chess game of life and death!!" And then, "love will be challenged, friendships will be torn apart" 
. What a mess, was that written by a 10 year old? One cliché after another. So yeah, after I read that I had pretty low expectations, but I was still disappointed when I saw Star Trek Into Darkness.
My ONLY disappointment with that movie was that the starship fight seemed too short. I would have loved to see Enterprise get in a few licks against the Vengeance before Marcus disabled their weapons and shields. They totally could have done it; it only would have extended the movie by two or three minutes, but it would have been TOTALLY worth it.
I hope that day will never come.
Just to make one thing clear: I don't dissent nuTrek per se, it's just that STID could have been sooo much better. Especially after the whole pre-release marketing promised us a completely different film. I don't hate or dislike STID, I'm just deeply disappointed that after four years of anticipation, all we got was ... this!
An early script pitched to Paramount would have involved a Starfleet officer -- one of Kirk's ancestors -- fighting in the Earth-Romulan War. I'm thinking some day we'll have to revisit that story line because it has quite a bit of potential.
An early script pitched to Paramount would have involved a Starfleet officer -- one of Kirk's ancestors -- fighting in the Earth-Romulan War. I'm thinking some day we'll have to revisit that story line because it has quite a bit of potential.
Well, global climate change has been accelerating for a while now...An early script pitched to Paramount would have involved a Starfleet officer -- one of Kirk's ancestors -- fighting in the Earth-Romulan War. I'm thinking some day we'll have to revisit that story line because it has quite a bit of potential.
That was Star Trek: The Beginning, the project Paramount had Rick Berman chasing his tail with while they waited for his contract to expire. Written by Eric Jenderssen.
It'll be a cold day in Hell when that gets made.
Case in point:
See, this is what I'm talking about. A convenient way to casually dismiss critics without actually addressing any of the criticisms. It can't possibly be that there's anything wrong with the movies.Someone here once suggested a logical possibility imo, (paraphrased) Abrams Trek dissenters are hardcore NG era fans unhappy over the direction Trek has been taken.
Perhaps they hope griping will sway enough people to sign their inevitable petition to 'return to the prime universe'
Even before the Abrams film, I realized Trek wasn't anywhere near as good as I remembered it. When I was a kid, I thought TOS and TNG were the epitome of science fiction. When I grew up and finally read some actual good science fiction, I discovered just how piss-poor most of Star Trek was. That isn't to say it can't be good. I'd like to see someone take Star Trek and turn it into something good one day.I used to be just as critical of everything Abrams did (it would literally send my blood pressure through the roof). Then I realized something, I was no longer having fun watching Star Trek. I had to re-evaluate why I was watching and if I wanted to keep watching going forward.
So I went back and started rewatching the various shows and realized that Abrams and Company weren't as far afield as I was convinced they were and damn the first movie was a fun ride (though flawed). I am able to enjoy each iteration for what it tried to be and what it is.
I'm a "Born-again Trekkie"!
And thank God for that.An early script pitched to Paramount would have involved a Starfleet officer -- one of Kirk's ancestors -- fighting in the Earth-Romulan War. I'm thinking some day we'll have to revisit that story line because it has quite a bit of potential.
That was Star Trek: The Beginning, the project Paramount had Rick Berman chasing his tail with while they waited for his contract to expire. Written by Eric Jenderssen.
It'll be a cold day in Hell when that gets made.
Star Trek will be continually rebooted, yes, but not the spinoffs. I mean, Sherlock Holmes will continue to be remade, but the spinoff animated series, Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century is unlikely to be rebooted anytime soon. TNG, and all of Berman-Trek for that matter, had its day, but that day is over.
Yeah it is really only three those others are just derivatives.
Not necessarily. The War of Roses is the kind of story that couldn't really be told any other way. "Man vs. Woman" is a unique type of fight, sort of like "Alien vs. Predator" only slightly more disturbing.
