That's my thought, as well as my desperate hope, as well. Please, no Romulans, no Ferengi, no Cardassians and for the love of God, no Borg!
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The Borg weren't so much about advancement as they were about perfection.
Control... as in Ground Control in Space Oddity. And the Major is Gabrielle Burnham.
Control can't reach Gabrielle. She can't hear it even though it tries to reach her.
Control can't reach Gabrielle. She can't hear it even though it tries to reach her.
I suspect that a very severely damaged version of control - perhaps just one nanoprobe - will be sent into the far past. Its basic imperatives to assimilate and improve itself will survive, but the background knowledge of Starfleet ca. 23rd century will be lost. The predilection for basic geometric shapes in space frame design (e.g., the sphere) will similarly be retained, leading to cubic starships. I think it will be implied that this is the Borg origin story, but never outright stated as fact.
I just assume they've been updated the same way everything else has.
The classic Borg concept is extremely outdated if you think about it. There was a Kelvin Universe academy novel which imagined them (or something heavily implied to be a scout of the Borg) as a swarm of nanites which took the form of whatever was needed.
Like Replicators?
I’ve never understood why they always feel the need to “update” everything for Star Trek. The Borg are fine as there are. If they want to do that, make it a new alien race.
If control is linked to the Borg, I hope not directly.
But I would be ok with it being defeated and destroyed, sent to the far past and distant space, lying around on a DQ planet where Alice Krige happens to find it and gets inspired to build her own cybernetic enhancements.
But I would be ok with it being defeated and destroyed, sent to the far past and distant space, lying around on a DQ planet where Alice Krige happens to find it and gets inspired to build her own cybernetic enhancements.
I agree, but that's not the Discovery way. It's all updated to the 9's but still apparently the same continuity
For those who are keen to say Control is the genesis of the Borg, a few points:-
A) why didnt the Borg seem to know about the federation before Q who? And if they did why did they wait until then to come and attack? B) Why would the Borg travel back in time and assimilate earth in the 21st century, which would wipe Control out of the timeline?
A) why didnt the Borg seem to know about the federation before Q who? And if they did why did they wait until then to come and attack? B) Why would the Borg travel back in time and assimilate earth in the 21st century, which would wipe Control out of the timeline?
And why would Borg suddenly want to wipe out all life in the universe. that was never their function or interest. One can argue with their methods, but in some ways the goal of the Borgl is to preserve life, albeit in an enhanced and collective form.
Why didn't Spock know cloaking devices were anything but theoretical in "Balance of Terror" when Klingons had been using them for 10 years in a war his own sister started? The time war in ENT was launched from a corrupted timeline that only existed as a result of the time war. You're applying far stricter continuity and logic than the makers of the shows do.
Which is why control is probably not the Borg origin.
However control is probably using Borg tec it has access to so it can fulfil its objectives
Yeah I'm kinda getting a similar thing here, that Leland 2.0 may be the first borg.... eventually fails this current mission and retreats to the Delta quadrant to create the hive and drones in order to physically overpower, "control", the universe. None of this would surprise me tbh.
Yes to all except the Cardassians. Do you not follow Gul Dukat on Twitter?
TOS didn't have Food Replicators but they did have Food Processors. The mechanics aren't the same but, effectively, they served the same purpose.
Hell froze over. For once, we agree about something. I don't want Control to be the origin story for the Borg either.
Maybe the Borg won‘t factor in at all.
Maybe at the end code fragments are recovered and given to the Daystrom M-5 Development Team?
Maybe at the end code fragments are recovered and given to the Daystrom M-5 Development Team?
The Borg were out to assimilate all life, not destroy it. That's why I'm sure they have nothing to do with Control.
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