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Constantine - Season 1

Being the second episode filmed would explain a lot. This was a completely forgettable episode I just did not care at all about. My friend almost dropped the show because of it.

Really? We rather enjoyed the story.
 
I enjoyed it more than the other episodes that have aired thus far. It certainly reminded me of early non-mythology The X Files episodes.

I remember them mentioning Liv, but not Zed.
 
It wasn't the most original story, but I still thought it was enjoyable. It being the second episode does explain why we seemed to be getting so many explanations all of a sudden.
 
I wonder if tonight's episode was meant to be the second episode. It's set on Halloween, which would've been a week after the pilot aired, and there's no mention whatsoever of Zed, who certainly would've been useful if she'd been around. And it seems to be setting up a lot of basic exposition about the Rising Darkness and Manny the Angel, stuff that we could've used much earlier in the series.

I thought immortal guy mentioned something about Zed being off taking some classes.

I didn't immediately think about the Rising Darkness and lines from Manny but I did catch the line about "6 months in that asylum and I'm all washed up" (paraphrase). Since the pilot has him leaving the asylum. That plus no Zed & it was a Halloween episode had me mention this to the friend I watch the show with. I mean, who airs a Halloween episode in December?

I don't recall that off camera remark about Zed going away for classes at all. That happened in the Jim Corrigan episode in New Orleans last week? Happened fast I suppose and was forgettable.

All said, I found the episode enjoyable, it just felt out of place.
I wonder if there was ever any lines in that episode that pertained to Liv originally?
 
Well I just started the episode and the line about Zed is spoken with no one on screen, so definitely edited in after the fact.
 
Hmm. I wonder if the DVD set will keep the episode in this position with the added line, or restore the original version. Or maybe put it in its original place and keep the added line, thus confusing viewers.
 
This week's episode with the "fallen angel" was pretty effective, aside from a kind of stereotyped portrayal of the Midwest (I suppose there are regions like that, but it isn't all that way). It was refreshing to see Manny finally do something more than just show up and annoy Constantine for a few moments.
 
This week's episode with the "fallen angel" was pretty effective, aside from a kind of stereotyped portrayal of the Midwest (I suppose there are regions like that, but it isn't all that way). It was refreshing to see Manny finally do something more than just show up and annoy Constantine for a few moments.

I liked this episode too. Definitely, the series has had more good episodes than bad ones at this point.
 
Yeah, this one was pretty cool. I did like getting so much focus on Manny, and we got some nice stuff for Zedd to.
 
No comments? How about those milky breasts and pink panties? :D

Seriously, she's becoming a co-equal co-star it seems.

See where it goes.

She's HEALTHY.
 
My friend and I just stopped watching this episode halfway through. We just didn't care anymore.

Did I miss milky breasts and pink panties? :(
 
^Only in the sense that Zed's top had a low enough neckline to show some cleavage, and at one point while she was fighting intruders, there was a flash of her panties above her trousers' waistline as she was bent forward. I wasn't even sure I'd seen the latter, it was so brief. (Umm, no pun intended.)

And there are other things more worth talking about, since the episode revealed more about Constantine's and Zed's pasts and about the nature of the Rising Darkness, and had a pretty major cliffhanger. Although I did find it contrived that Constantine went to Mexico and left his Spanish-speaking sidekick behind just so that Zed could be alone for the sake of her subplot. They lampshaded it, but that just called more attention to the artifice.
 
Found the episode to be quite good. Nice look to the evil characters and no annoying cryptic angel to deal with. Constantine is growing on me as the weeks go by. I would lke to see him run into the big bad of the season as you can only take so many minions before you meet the leader.
 
I really enjoyed this one. We got some nice bits of backstory for both Zed and Constantine, and learned a bit more about the Rising Darkness. So does this mean the Brujeria are the big bad? Just read up on Zed's backstory in the comics, and it sounds like they are using at least some of it. It sounds like it wasn't a real long story in the comics, so it will be interesting to see where they go with it on the show.
So how many member of the Newcastle Crew are left to meet?
 
I got around to watching the mid-season premiere of Constantine over the long weekend, Saints of Last Resort part 2 and enjoyed the show once again.
However, I see that no one is talking about it cause I had to do a search for the thread. Which might help explain the recent articles about cancellation talk once again.

The Saint of Last Resorts: Part 2 managed to drop two tenths to a far from desirable 0.8 in the all-important (to advertisers) demographic of adults 18-49, with total audience levels dipping from 3.30 million viewers to just over 3 million. While that’s not a huge drop, a 1.0 was hardly anything to be happy about to begin with.

Networks tend to start seriously thinking cancellation once shows begin to regularly dip below that 1.0 barrier, except in the rare case of a program like Hannibal, which NBC doesn’t produce and only pays a small licensing fee to air. Hannibal can earn 0.7s every week and still be profitable for NBC. Unfortunately, Constantine isn’t so lucky. For the record, this marks Constantine’s fifth instance of coming in below the 1.0 line.
Drop in viewership & drop in the important demo are hard to ignore. The show has been really coming into it's own the last few episodes before the break(even the Halloween one out of order) and it's a shame people seem to be giving up on it.

What I notice in articles talking about the demo/viewer drop is that no mention is made of this show's Live+3 scores like it does on Arrow, Gotham, AoS and Agent Carter. I wonder why that is? Is it not a number of significance, it's marginal at best?

There has been a contingent of the anti-comic film crowd that like the town scryer have bee saying "saturation, saturation will finally end the film glut". Is it possible this has happened on TV already? If it has what does this likely mean for Supergirl? Cause Constantine is a strongly produced show, if it fails it will not be cause it's a straight up bad product.
 
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