Consistency

[Christopher]

Add in Vale, Nave, Battaglia, Leybenzon, and Choudhury, and that's about ten security chiefs in eight years. Sounds like the position is jinxed.

No worse than in TOS, it seems.

Let's see, going from Memory Beta's list:

1701-D:
Lt. Natasha Yar: served 1 year, KIA
Lt. Worf, Son of Mogh (or is it Worf Rozhenko?): served c. 7 y, transferred to DS9

1701-E:
Lt. Linda Addison: served briefly, exposed as impostor
Lt. Padraig Daniels: served c. 4 years, resigned
Rowan: temporary substitute
Lt. Rhea McAdams: temporary substitute, resigned
Baeta Leyoro: temporary substitute
Christine Vale: served c. 3 years, transferred to USS Titan
Worf: temporary substitute, promoted to first officer
Ens. Sara Nave: served several months, transferred to conn
Lt. Lio Battaglia: served c. 1 month (?), KIA
Ens. Sara Nave: resumed post after Battaglia's death, KIA shortly thereafter
Lt. Zelik Leybenzon: served c. 5 months, transferred to USS Bhutto (later KIA)
Lt. Jasminder Choudhury: served c. 2 years to date, current in post

So that's several stable, long-term occupants of the post (Worf, Daniels, Vale, Choudhury), several temporary fill-ins, and only four who vacated the post through violent means. The periods where several chiefs came and went in quick succession were exceptions to the norm.

 

[SicOne]

^ Astounding that they did not all wear red shirts.

 

[Christopher]

I think I've read that the reason the TNG creator switched the command and security/engineering colors with each other was to avoid the "redshirt" jokes. I'm surprised that by now it hasn't been encompassed to include "goldshirts" as well. But I guess high casualties in security are more a TOS thing (recent TNG novels notwithstanding).

 

[ronny]

I think I've read that the reason the TNG creator switched the command and security/engineering colors with each other was to avoid the "redshirt" jokes. I'm surprised that by now it hasn't been encompassed to include "goldshirts" as well. But I guess high casualties in security are more a TOS thing (recent TNG novels notwithstanding).

I thought I read one of the reasons they switched colors around was because Patrick Stewart didn't look good in yellow, kind of washed out, but he looked better in red. Don't know if that's the only reason or if I'm mixing up some facts but that's what I thought the reason was for the switch.

 

[JRoss]

Thanks for all the security info. I've been planning on setting it just a few months after Generations, but I wasn't sure if it was still Daniels then. I'm finished with the outline and working on the rough draft, but at the same time I have RPG material and short fiction to write. Thanks again.

 

[Christopher]

Thanks for all the security info. I've been planning on setting it just a few months after Generations, but I wasn't sure if it was still Daniels then.

Well, it wouldn't have been anybody then. The Enterprise-E wasn't launched until more than a year after Generations. Did you mean after Insurrection? That would be consistent with the late Dominion War setting you mentioned earlier.

 

[JRoss]

Scratch that, I meant Insurrection.

 

[BolianAuthor]

Hi, I'm new to the forum but not to Trek. I used to read the novels as a kid, my favorite was Vendetta by Peter David.

Anyway, I'm now a part-time professional writer, and I am really hoping to write a Star Trek novel. I've been out of the loop as far as the novels go for quite some time.

I was wondering, what with the DS9 relaunch and the post Next Generation books, is there an internal consistency being set up for the books? I've been doing some research on Memory Beta and have seen numerous references to the same characters, such as the Federation president.

If I write a novel set during the end of the Dominion war and featuring the Enterprise-E crew, what do I need to know? Thanks.

Great to see another Vendetta fan here! Vendetta is the novel that was my inspiration to start writing. The fact that it remains a fan favorite to this day is a tribute to how well it was written, and how entertaining it was.

 

[DimesDan]

And it was A Time for War, A Time for Peace that retconned the other security officers as fill-ins while Daniels was on paternity leave. There was Leyoro in the Q books, Rowan and McAdams from Immortal Coil, and some kinda alien guy (a Benzite or Bolian, I think) in the Shatner books, though I imagine he doesn't count.

Add in Vale, Nave, Battaglia, Leybenzon, and Choudhury, and that's about ten security chiefs in eight years. Sounds like the position is jinxed.

It's kind of like being the drummer for Spinal Tap . . ..

Or Defence against the Dark Arts Professor in Harry Potter.

 

[kkozoriz1]

Or, on a less bloodthirsty note, secretary for Murphy Brown.

 

[Therin of Andor]

some kinda alien guy (a Benzite or Bolian, I think) in the Shatner books.

Lt Rolk was a Bolian and was Enterprise-E security chief for "Avenger" and "Spectre".

 

[Stevil2001]

Ah, of course the Ambassador of Andorians (and Other Blue Aliens) would know that. Thanks, Ian!

 

[Therin of Andor]

Ah, of course the Ambassador of Andorians (and Other Blue Aliens) would know that. Thanks, Ian!

After Geocities folded, I didn't have the energy to update my attempt at a "Rogues Gallery of Bolians" - they were coming pretty thick and fast at one point, in both episodes/movies and the novels, but it did lead to some fun stuff, including some impromptu email correspondence with actor Chris Kelly (Zim Brott) of DS9's "Fields of Fire", who was thrilled to be included on that page.

http://www.reocities.com/therinofandor/Bolians.html

 

[Cybersnark]

I'd have to double-check, but wasn't "Mr." Rolk a female? I remember the narration noting that "mister" was being used in the traditional naval sense of a subordinate (rather than as a gendered pronoun).

 

[JRoss]

Peter David is "teh awesome." Just finished and sent out a short story manuscript, so there should now be more time for the novel project.