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Conjectural late 20th/Early 21st Century Doctor Who Timeline
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Please don't mind some thread necromancy, but, after seven months or thereabouts, I've gotten around to updating my conjectural Doctor Who 20th/21st Century timeline with information from Series Six.
Note: I never watched past the fourth episode of Torchwood: Miracle Day, nor any episodes of The Sarah Jane Adventures's final series save The Curse of Clyde Langer, so this timeline does not take that information into account. Also, I really have no idea how to reconcile the months-long species-wide existential crisis seen in Miracle Day with the relatively peaceful-seeming present-day Earth of Series Six of Doctor Who, except to perhaps suggest that the Miracle took place in the Crack-ed timeline that was erased in "The Big Bang."
As before, please feel free to help me find any problems or inconsistencies!
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8 April 1969: Melody Pond, later to be known as River Song, is held captive by the Silence, kept in a vessel resembling the proto-TARDIS used as the flat above Craig Owens’s apartment in 2010 Leeds, after her birth in the 52nd Century, but has been able to use their computer system to attempt to contact United States President Richard Nixon; the TARDIS lands in the Oval Office, where President Richard Nixon assigns the Doctor, Amy Pond, Rory Williams, River Song, and former United States Federal Bureau of Investigation Agent Canton Delaware III to investigate Melody Pond’s anonymous attempts to contact him; TARDIS crew make initial discovery of the Silence (DW: “The Impossible Astronaut”)
April-July 1969: TARDIS crew begin three-month undercover operation to ferret out the Silence’s reach on Earth (DW: “Day of the Moon”)
20 July 1969: United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration lunar module Eagle from the Apollo 11 space flight lands on Earth’s moon, Luna; Neil Armstrong is first Human to set foot on Luna; during the initial moon landing broadcast, the Doctor hijacks the television signal and inserts a command from one of the Silence, inducing humanity to kill any Silence they see and then forget about it; the Silence are driven off Earth; Melody Pond, daughter of 21st Century Britons Amy Pond and Rory Williams born in the 52nd Century, escapes Silence custody (DW: “Day of the Moon”)
January 1970: In the streets of New York City, Melody Pond regenerates (DW: “Day of the Moon”)
1986: The Doctor and Rose Tyler attend the wedding of Pete and Jackie Tyler. (DW: "Father's Day")
1987: Rose Tyler nearly averts the death of Pete Tyler, leading to the appearance of the Reapers; paradox resolved with the death of Pete Tyler (DW: "Father's Day")
7 April 1996 (Easter): Crack in space-time occurs in Pond residence in Leadworth, England; Prisoner Zero escapes from the Atraxi, takes refuge in Pond residence; the Doctor lands in Leadworth after regenerating and encounters Amelia Pond (DW: "The Eleventh Hour"); these events are later re-written out of history, though the Doctor and Amy retain their memories of this incident (DW: “The Big Bang”)
7 April 1996: In an altered timeline, Amelia Pond believes in stars in a universe that has been without them for almost two thousand years; Amelia later opens the Pandorica at the National Gallery, saving her older counterpart from an alternate timeline; the Doctor, Amy Pond, and River Song later reverse the TARDIS’s explosion, reversing the total event collapse and erasing this alteration of the timeline from history (DW: “The Big Bang”)
1997: Melody Pond, the future River Song, having regenerated at least twice since escaping the Silence in 1969, has taken the form of a young girl and inserted herself into the lives of the young Amelia Pond and Rory Williams, her future parents, under the alias of “Mels;” she is told the story of the Doctor by Amelia and frequently gets into trouble with Leadworth authorities over the next decade (DW: “Let’s Kill Hitler;” year estimate based upon age of actress Caitlin Black)
30-31 December 1999: The TARDIS lands in San Francisco; the Doctor is shot by rival street gangs, dies and regenerates in a San Francisco hospital (TV movie: Doctor Who)
1 January 2000: Torchwood Three freelance agent Jack Harkness discovers massacre of Torchwood Three staff, becomes new Torchwood Three leader (TW: "Fragments"); the Doctor saves Earth from the Master (TV movie: Doctor Who)
January 2003: Tenza child uses a perception filter to cause Alex and Claire Thompson, an infertile Human couple, to believe him their son, assumes the name George (DW: “Night Terrors”)
1 January 2005: The Doctor visits Rose Tyler for the last time in his life, at a point in her life before she had first met his ninth incarnation; death of the Doctor’s tenth incarnation, regeneration into his eleventh incarnation (DW: "The End of Time, Part Two")
March 2005: Rose Tyler encounters the Doctor at Henrick’s, helps avert an Auton invasion, leaves to travel with him (DW: "Rose," "Aliens of London")
March 2006: Rose returns to the Powell Estate after being missing for a year; First Contact: The Slitheen of Raxicoricalfalipatorious assassinate British Prime Minister Tony Blair, destroy Big Ben; Downing Street destroyed by the Doctor while averting Slitheen plot (DW: "Aliens of London"/"World War Three")
September 2006: Blon Fel Fotch Pasameer Day Slitheen impersonates Margaret Blaine as Lord Mayor of Cardiff; the Doctor captures her, she reverts to egg form and is delivered to Raxicoricalfalipatorious (DW: "Boom Town")
November 2006: Rose Tyler returned to the 21st Century involuntarily from a Dalek invasion in the 2,002nd Century, rejects escape, looks into the Heart of the TARDIS to save the Doctor (DW: "The Parting of the Ways")
24-25 December 2006: Attempted Sycorax invasion; the Doctor, newly regenerated, starts a rumor that leads to vote of no confidence against British Prime Minister Harriet Jones (DW: "The Christmas Invasion")
1 January 2007: The Doctor and Rose Tyler leave for New Earth in the Year 5 Billion and Fifty (DW: "New Earth")
February 2007: The Doctor and Rose Tyler investigate Deffry Vale School, encounter Sarah Jane Smith; Mickey Smith joins the TARDIS crew (DW: "School Reunion")
March 2007: The Doctor and Rose Tyler defeat the Absorbaloff; the Master arrives on Earth, assumes the guise of Harold Saxon; United Kingdom Prime Minister Harriet Jones loses a vote of no confidence (DW: "Love & Monsters;" "The Sound of Drums")
April 2007: Henry Van Staten houses a captive Dalek beneath Utah, United States; Rose Tyler and the Doctor encounter the Dalek, and help it commit suicide after it exterminates numerous Humans (Note: Date corrected from the Doctor’s date of 2012 to keep episode consistent with Dalek Invasion of 2009.) (DW: "Dalek")
12 May 2007: The Doctor and Martha Jones travel to see the 2007 Eurovision Song Contest, are first attacked by the Family of Blood (DW: “Human Nature,” Martha Jones MySpace Blog)
May 2007: “Ghosts” – impressions of an invading Cybus Cybermen army – first start appearing in response to the Torchwood Institute’s experiments with a weak point in the walls between dimensions (DW: “Army of Ghosts”)
July 2007: Battle of Canary Wharf; fall of Torchwood One; the Doctor and Rose Tyler defeat the Cybus Cybermen and the Cult of Skaro; Rose Tyler sucked into the alternate universe (DW: "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday")
August 2007: Sally Sparrow encounters the Weeping Angels, is saved by the Doctor and Martha Jones (DW: "Blink")
July-October 2007: Torchwood Three leader Jack Harkness assumes overall control of the Torchwood Institute after Torchwood One's fall in the Battle of Canary Wharf (TW: "Everything Changes;" DW: "The Sound of Drums")
October 2007: Cardiff Police Constable Gwen Cooper discovers Torchwood Three, becomes one of its agents (TW: "Everything Changes")
25 December 2007: The Doctor and Rose Tyler have their last contact prior to the 2009 Dalek Invasion; the Doctor encounters Donna Noble, defeats the Racnoss; River Thames drained; Harold Saxon is United Kingdom Defense Minister (DW: "Doomsday," "The Runaway Bride")
January 2008: A Saxon faction candidate is running in a special election for a House of Commons constituency in Cardiff; Torchwood Three investigates abandoned dance hall, agents temporally displaced to 1940s London; the Cardiff Rift is opened, Captain Jack Harkness defeats the creature Abaddon; TARDIS lands in Cardiff to absorb energy from the Rift, Harkness stows away on its exterior; TARDIS begins its journey to the Year 100 Trillion; Harkness is believed to have disappeared (TW: "Captain Jack Harkness;" "End of Days;" DW: "Utopia")
April 2008: The Doctor returns Prisoner Zero to the Atraxi and saves the Earth, meets Amy Pond again (DW: "The Eleventh Hour"); these events are later re-written out of history by the closing of the Cracks in the Universe, though the Doctor, Amy Pond, and Rory Williams retain their memories of these events (DW: “The Big Bang”)
June 2008: The Doctor and Martha Jones encounter Sally Sparrow, who gives them a guide to the previous year’s events (DW: "Blink")
4 November 2008: Arthur Coleman Winters elected President of the United States (DW: "The Sound of Drums")
11 November 2008: Royal Hope Hospital in London displaced to Luna by the Judoon; the Doctor encounters Martha Jones, asks her to travel with him; Harold Saxon is leading a political faction bearing his name in the 2008 United Kingdom General Election (DW: "Smith and Jones")
12 November 2008: Richard Lazarus attempts his immortality experiment with funds from U.K. Defense Minister and Saxon faction leader Harold Saxon (DW: "The Lazarus Experiment")
13 November 2008: 2008 United Kingdom General Election; Saxon faction wins majority of seats in House of Commons; U.K. government agents loyal to Saxon enter Jones home, record Francine Jones’s conversation with Martha Jones in the 51st Century (DW: "42")
14 November 2008: Harold Saxon appointed Prime Minister; Jones family detained; the Doctor, Torchwood Three leader Jack Harkness, and Martha Jones proclaimed wanted terrorists (DW: "The Sound of Drums")
15 November 2008: First Contact with the “Toclafane;” assassination of United States President-elect Arthur Coleman Winters aboard Unified Intelligence Taskforce aircraft carrier Valiant; assassination of the Master/Harold Saxon by Lucy Saxon; Jack Harkness returns to Cardiff and Torchwood Three (DW: "The Sound of Drums," "Last of the Time Lords;" TW: "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang")
25 December 2008: London significantly abandoned in wake of Racnoss and Sycorax attacks the two prior Christmases; near-destruction of Buckingham Palace and Southern England by the Stow space liner Titanic; the Doctor first encounters Wilfred Mott, grandfather of Donna Noble (DW: "Voyage of the Damned")
April 2009: Adipose incident in London; Donna Noble travels with the Doctor; the Sontaran Empire attempts to conquer Earth, is thwarted by the Doctor and the Unified Intelligence Taskforce (DW: "Partners in Crime;" "The Sontaran Stratagem"/"The Poison Sky")
Saturday, June 2009: Displacement of Earth to the Medusa Cascade; Dalek Invasion of 2009; assassination of Harriet Jones, former British Prime Minister; assassination of British Prime Minister Aubrey Fairchild; destruction of the Unified Intelligence Taskforce vessel Valiant; Earth military forces significantly depleted; the Doctor and his allies rescue the Earth and defeat the Daleks (DW: "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End"); the young Adelaide Brooke looks into the eye of a Dalek and is spared extermination (DW: "The Waters of Mars")
August 2009: The Doctor and Sarah Jane Smith avert a plot by the Trickster to defeat Smith and her friends on Bannerman Road (SJA: The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith)
September 2009: The 4-5-6 Crisis; British Prime Minister Brian Green resigns; coup d'état in the United Kingdom by the United States Armed Forces; possible resignation of Arthur Coleman Winters’s successor as United States President; death of Torchwood agent Ianto Jones (TW: Children of Earth)
September 2009: Barack Obama becomes United States President in wake of 4-5-6 Crisis, achieves high popularity in wake of ongoing financial crises stemming from bank failures and alien invasions (Speculative, based on his high popularity in DW: "The End of Time, Part One")
24 December 2009: Resurrection of the Master by Saxon cult (DW: "The End of Time, Part One")
25 December 2009: Creation of the Master Race, escape of the Doctor from the Master’s captivity to a Vinvocci ship (DW: “The End of Time, Part One;” “The End of Time, Part Two”)
25-26 December 2009: Arrival of a White Point Star Diamond from the Time Locked planet Gallifrey on the last day of the Time War (DW: “The End of Time, Part Two”)
26 December 2009: Temporal displacement of the Time Lords and planet Gallifrey from the last day of the Time War to 2009; Human race restored, Master and Time Lords disappear back into the Time War; absorption of radiation by the Doctor to save Wilfred Mott (DW: “The End of Time, Part Two”)
December 2009: The Doctor, suffering from radiation poisoning, says his goodbyes to Sarah Jane Smith, Luke Smith, Mickey and Martha Jones-Smith, and Verity Newman (DW: "The End of Time, Part Two"); during this process, he also attempts to look up or contact all prior companions (SJA: Death of the Doctor)
January 2010: The Doctor and Amy Pond visit the Musée d'Orsay in Paris, France, where the Doctor detects a temporal incursion in the timeline of Dutch painter Vincent van Gogh; the Doctor, Amy Pond, and van Gogh return to the Musée, where van Gogh discovers his destiny as a famous artist; upon their return a third time, the Doctor and Amy find that this revelation did not avert van Gogh’s suicide (DW: “Vincent and the Doctor;” month is conjectural based upon winter weather); these events are possibly later erased from history or re-written by the Doctor’s closure of the Cracks in the Universe, though the Doctor and Amy Pond retain their memories of this incident (DW: “The Big Bang”)
March 2010: Torchwood Three leader Jack Harkness abandons Earth in the wake of being forced to murder his grandson in the 4-5-6 Crisis (TW: “Children of Earth, Day Five”); the Doctor visits Harkness in a pub in Zaggit Zagoo on Planet Zog prior to his regeneration, introduces him to former Stow space liner midshipman Alonso Frame; wedding of Donna Noble to Shaun Temple; the Doctor visits the Noble family one last time during the wedding, giving them a winning lottery ticket bought with money borrowed from the late Geoffrey Noble before regenerating (DW: “The End of Time, Part Two”)
4 April 2010: The 200 London Bus travels to San Helios; the Doctor saves Earth with help from British contingent of the Unified Intelligence Taskforce, discovers that he is prophesied to die or regenerate as “he will knock four times” (DW: "Planet of the Dead")
8-12 June 2010: The Doctor stranded in Colchester, Essex; the Doctor becomes a lodger of Craig Owens, discovers attempted alien TARDIS-like vessel preventing the TARDIS from landing, consuming humans; destruction of the imitation TARDIS (DW: “The Lodger;” dates conjectural based upon airdate); these events are possibly later erased out of history or re-written by the closure of the Cracks in the Universe, though the Doctor and Amy Pond retain their memories of this event (DW: “The Big Bang”)
25 June 2010: The Doctor returns to Leadworth, invites Amy Pond to travel with him the night before her wedding (DW: "The Eleventh Hour," “Flesh and Stone”); this event is later re-written out of history, though the Doctor and Amy Pond retain their memories of the event (DW: “The Big Bang”)
25-26 June 2010: In an altered timeline, the Doctor and Amy return to the Pond residence after the crash of the Byzantium, five minutes after Amy left Leadworth; Amy attempts to seduce the Doctor, who deduces that the day of her wedding will be the date of the origin of the Cracks in the Universe (DW: “Flesh and Stone”); these events are later re-written in some way by the closing of the Cracks, though the Doctor, Amy Pond, and River Song retain their memories of the event (DW: “The Big Bang”)
26 June 2010: In an altered timeline, agents of the Pandorica Alliance arrive in Leadworth, invade the Pond residence, and use snapshots of the house’s psychic residue to create the Pandorica scenario in 102 C.E. at Stonehenge; the TARDIS is drawn to the Pond residence immediately after the invasion, forcing 51st Century adventurer River Song to discover the invasion; the TARDIS is later taken over by the entity known as the Silence, exploding and causing total event collapse before the Doctor reverses the process; these events are later re-written out of history by the Doctor (DW: “The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang”)
26 June 2010: In an altered timeline, the Doctor visits Rory Williams at his bachelor party and invites him to travel to 16th Century Venice with him and Amy as a wedding gift (DW: “The Vampires of Venice”); this event is later re-written out of history, though the Doctor and Rory Williams retain their memories of the event (DW: “The Big Bang”)
26 June 2010: Marriage of Amy Pond and Rory Williams; River Song gives Amy an anonymous wedding gift; Amy Pond, retaining her subconscious memories of her travels with the Doctor in an altered timeline before his closing of the Cracks in the Universe, is able to consciously recall the Doctor after receiving Song’s diary, allowing the Doctor and the TARDIS to re-integrate into history; the Doctor visits Rory’s and Amy’s wedding, and then leaves with the two on a mission to rescue the future Orient Express (DW: “The Big Bang”) before bringing them to at least two alien worlds in honeymoon attempts (DW: “A Christmas Carol;” SJA: Death of the Doctor)
(Continued)
Note: I never watched past the fourth episode of Torchwood: Miracle Day, nor any episodes of The Sarah Jane Adventures's final series save The Curse of Clyde Langer, so this timeline does not take that information into account. Also, I really have no idea how to reconcile the months-long species-wide existential crisis seen in Miracle Day with the relatively peaceful-seeming present-day Earth of Series Six of Doctor Who, except to perhaps suggest that the Miracle took place in the Crack-ed timeline that was erased in "The Big Bang."
As before, please feel free to help me find any problems or inconsistencies!
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Conjectural Late 20th and 21st Century Doctor Who Timeline
8 April 1969: Melody Pond, later to be known as River Song, is held captive by the Silence, kept in a vessel resembling the proto-TARDIS used as the flat above Craig Owens’s apartment in 2010 Leeds, after her birth in the 52nd Century, but has been able to use their computer system to attempt to contact United States President Richard Nixon; the TARDIS lands in the Oval Office, where President Richard Nixon assigns the Doctor, Amy Pond, Rory Williams, River Song, and former United States Federal Bureau of Investigation Agent Canton Delaware III to investigate Melody Pond’s anonymous attempts to contact him; TARDIS crew make initial discovery of the Silence (DW: “The Impossible Astronaut”)
April-July 1969: TARDIS crew begin three-month undercover operation to ferret out the Silence’s reach on Earth (DW: “Day of the Moon”)
20 July 1969: United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration lunar module Eagle from the Apollo 11 space flight lands on Earth’s moon, Luna; Neil Armstrong is first Human to set foot on Luna; during the initial moon landing broadcast, the Doctor hijacks the television signal and inserts a command from one of the Silence, inducing humanity to kill any Silence they see and then forget about it; the Silence are driven off Earth; Melody Pond, daughter of 21st Century Britons Amy Pond and Rory Williams born in the 52nd Century, escapes Silence custody (DW: “Day of the Moon”)
January 1970: In the streets of New York City, Melody Pond regenerates (DW: “Day of the Moon”)
1986: The Doctor and Rose Tyler attend the wedding of Pete and Jackie Tyler. (DW: "Father's Day")
1987: Rose Tyler nearly averts the death of Pete Tyler, leading to the appearance of the Reapers; paradox resolved with the death of Pete Tyler (DW: "Father's Day")
7 April 1996 (Easter): Crack in space-time occurs in Pond residence in Leadworth, England; Prisoner Zero escapes from the Atraxi, takes refuge in Pond residence; the Doctor lands in Leadworth after regenerating and encounters Amelia Pond (DW: "The Eleventh Hour"); these events are later re-written out of history, though the Doctor and Amy retain their memories of this incident (DW: “The Big Bang”)
7 April 1996: In an altered timeline, Amelia Pond believes in stars in a universe that has been without them for almost two thousand years; Amelia later opens the Pandorica at the National Gallery, saving her older counterpart from an alternate timeline; the Doctor, Amy Pond, and River Song later reverse the TARDIS’s explosion, reversing the total event collapse and erasing this alteration of the timeline from history (DW: “The Big Bang”)
1997: Melody Pond, the future River Song, having regenerated at least twice since escaping the Silence in 1969, has taken the form of a young girl and inserted herself into the lives of the young Amelia Pond and Rory Williams, her future parents, under the alias of “Mels;” she is told the story of the Doctor by Amelia and frequently gets into trouble with Leadworth authorities over the next decade (DW: “Let’s Kill Hitler;” year estimate based upon age of actress Caitlin Black)
30-31 December 1999: The TARDIS lands in San Francisco; the Doctor is shot by rival street gangs, dies and regenerates in a San Francisco hospital (TV movie: Doctor Who)
1 January 2000: Torchwood Three freelance agent Jack Harkness discovers massacre of Torchwood Three staff, becomes new Torchwood Three leader (TW: "Fragments"); the Doctor saves Earth from the Master (TV movie: Doctor Who)
January 2003: Tenza child uses a perception filter to cause Alex and Claire Thompson, an infertile Human couple, to believe him their son, assumes the name George (DW: “Night Terrors”)
1 January 2005: The Doctor visits Rose Tyler for the last time in his life, at a point in her life before she had first met his ninth incarnation; death of the Doctor’s tenth incarnation, regeneration into his eleventh incarnation (DW: "The End of Time, Part Two")
March 2005: Rose Tyler encounters the Doctor at Henrick’s, helps avert an Auton invasion, leaves to travel with him (DW: "Rose," "Aliens of London")
March 2006: Rose returns to the Powell Estate after being missing for a year; First Contact: The Slitheen of Raxicoricalfalipatorious assassinate British Prime Minister Tony Blair, destroy Big Ben; Downing Street destroyed by the Doctor while averting Slitheen plot (DW: "Aliens of London"/"World War Three")
September 2006: Blon Fel Fotch Pasameer Day Slitheen impersonates Margaret Blaine as Lord Mayor of Cardiff; the Doctor captures her, she reverts to egg form and is delivered to Raxicoricalfalipatorious (DW: "Boom Town")
November 2006: Rose Tyler returned to the 21st Century involuntarily from a Dalek invasion in the 2,002nd Century, rejects escape, looks into the Heart of the TARDIS to save the Doctor (DW: "The Parting of the Ways")
24-25 December 2006: Attempted Sycorax invasion; the Doctor, newly regenerated, starts a rumor that leads to vote of no confidence against British Prime Minister Harriet Jones (DW: "The Christmas Invasion")
1 January 2007: The Doctor and Rose Tyler leave for New Earth in the Year 5 Billion and Fifty (DW: "New Earth")
February 2007: The Doctor and Rose Tyler investigate Deffry Vale School, encounter Sarah Jane Smith; Mickey Smith joins the TARDIS crew (DW: "School Reunion")
March 2007: The Doctor and Rose Tyler defeat the Absorbaloff; the Master arrives on Earth, assumes the guise of Harold Saxon; United Kingdom Prime Minister Harriet Jones loses a vote of no confidence (DW: "Love & Monsters;" "The Sound of Drums")
April 2007: Henry Van Staten houses a captive Dalek beneath Utah, United States; Rose Tyler and the Doctor encounter the Dalek, and help it commit suicide after it exterminates numerous Humans (Note: Date corrected from the Doctor’s date of 2012 to keep episode consistent with Dalek Invasion of 2009.) (DW: "Dalek")
12 May 2007: The Doctor and Martha Jones travel to see the 2007 Eurovision Song Contest, are first attacked by the Family of Blood (DW: “Human Nature,” Martha Jones MySpace Blog)
May 2007: “Ghosts” – impressions of an invading Cybus Cybermen army – first start appearing in response to the Torchwood Institute’s experiments with a weak point in the walls between dimensions (DW: “Army of Ghosts”)
July 2007: Battle of Canary Wharf; fall of Torchwood One; the Doctor and Rose Tyler defeat the Cybus Cybermen and the Cult of Skaro; Rose Tyler sucked into the alternate universe (DW: "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday")
August 2007: Sally Sparrow encounters the Weeping Angels, is saved by the Doctor and Martha Jones (DW: "Blink")
July-October 2007: Torchwood Three leader Jack Harkness assumes overall control of the Torchwood Institute after Torchwood One's fall in the Battle of Canary Wharf (TW: "Everything Changes;" DW: "The Sound of Drums")
October 2007: Cardiff Police Constable Gwen Cooper discovers Torchwood Three, becomes one of its agents (TW: "Everything Changes")
25 December 2007: The Doctor and Rose Tyler have their last contact prior to the 2009 Dalek Invasion; the Doctor encounters Donna Noble, defeats the Racnoss; River Thames drained; Harold Saxon is United Kingdom Defense Minister (DW: "Doomsday," "The Runaway Bride")
January 2008: A Saxon faction candidate is running in a special election for a House of Commons constituency in Cardiff; Torchwood Three investigates abandoned dance hall, agents temporally displaced to 1940s London; the Cardiff Rift is opened, Captain Jack Harkness defeats the creature Abaddon; TARDIS lands in Cardiff to absorb energy from the Rift, Harkness stows away on its exterior; TARDIS begins its journey to the Year 100 Trillion; Harkness is believed to have disappeared (TW: "Captain Jack Harkness;" "End of Days;" DW: "Utopia")
April 2008: The Doctor returns Prisoner Zero to the Atraxi and saves the Earth, meets Amy Pond again (DW: "The Eleventh Hour"); these events are later re-written out of history by the closing of the Cracks in the Universe, though the Doctor, Amy Pond, and Rory Williams retain their memories of these events (DW: “The Big Bang”)
June 2008: The Doctor and Martha Jones encounter Sally Sparrow, who gives them a guide to the previous year’s events (DW: "Blink")
4 November 2008: Arthur Coleman Winters elected President of the United States (DW: "The Sound of Drums")
11 November 2008: Royal Hope Hospital in London displaced to Luna by the Judoon; the Doctor encounters Martha Jones, asks her to travel with him; Harold Saxon is leading a political faction bearing his name in the 2008 United Kingdom General Election (DW: "Smith and Jones")
12 November 2008: Richard Lazarus attempts his immortality experiment with funds from U.K. Defense Minister and Saxon faction leader Harold Saxon (DW: "The Lazarus Experiment")
13 November 2008: 2008 United Kingdom General Election; Saxon faction wins majority of seats in House of Commons; U.K. government agents loyal to Saxon enter Jones home, record Francine Jones’s conversation with Martha Jones in the 51st Century (DW: "42")
14 November 2008: Harold Saxon appointed Prime Minister; Jones family detained; the Doctor, Torchwood Three leader Jack Harkness, and Martha Jones proclaimed wanted terrorists (DW: "The Sound of Drums")
15 November 2008: First Contact with the “Toclafane;” assassination of United States President-elect Arthur Coleman Winters aboard Unified Intelligence Taskforce aircraft carrier Valiant; assassination of the Master/Harold Saxon by Lucy Saxon; Jack Harkness returns to Cardiff and Torchwood Three (DW: "The Sound of Drums," "Last of the Time Lords;" TW: "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang")
25 December 2008: London significantly abandoned in wake of Racnoss and Sycorax attacks the two prior Christmases; near-destruction of Buckingham Palace and Southern England by the Stow space liner Titanic; the Doctor first encounters Wilfred Mott, grandfather of Donna Noble (DW: "Voyage of the Damned")
April 2009: Adipose incident in London; Donna Noble travels with the Doctor; the Sontaran Empire attempts to conquer Earth, is thwarted by the Doctor and the Unified Intelligence Taskforce (DW: "Partners in Crime;" "The Sontaran Stratagem"/"The Poison Sky")
Saturday, June 2009: Displacement of Earth to the Medusa Cascade; Dalek Invasion of 2009; assassination of Harriet Jones, former British Prime Minister; assassination of British Prime Minister Aubrey Fairchild; destruction of the Unified Intelligence Taskforce vessel Valiant; Earth military forces significantly depleted; the Doctor and his allies rescue the Earth and defeat the Daleks (DW: "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End"); the young Adelaide Brooke looks into the eye of a Dalek and is spared extermination (DW: "The Waters of Mars")
August 2009: The Doctor and Sarah Jane Smith avert a plot by the Trickster to defeat Smith and her friends on Bannerman Road (SJA: The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith)
September 2009: The 4-5-6 Crisis; British Prime Minister Brian Green resigns; coup d'état in the United Kingdom by the United States Armed Forces; possible resignation of Arthur Coleman Winters’s successor as United States President; death of Torchwood agent Ianto Jones (TW: Children of Earth)
September 2009: Barack Obama becomes United States President in wake of 4-5-6 Crisis, achieves high popularity in wake of ongoing financial crises stemming from bank failures and alien invasions (Speculative, based on his high popularity in DW: "The End of Time, Part One")
24 December 2009: Resurrection of the Master by Saxon cult (DW: "The End of Time, Part One")
25 December 2009: Creation of the Master Race, escape of the Doctor from the Master’s captivity to a Vinvocci ship (DW: “The End of Time, Part One;” “The End of Time, Part Two”)
25-26 December 2009: Arrival of a White Point Star Diamond from the Time Locked planet Gallifrey on the last day of the Time War (DW: “The End of Time, Part Two”)
26 December 2009: Temporal displacement of the Time Lords and planet Gallifrey from the last day of the Time War to 2009; Human race restored, Master and Time Lords disappear back into the Time War; absorption of radiation by the Doctor to save Wilfred Mott (DW: “The End of Time, Part Two”)
December 2009: The Doctor, suffering from radiation poisoning, says his goodbyes to Sarah Jane Smith, Luke Smith, Mickey and Martha Jones-Smith, and Verity Newman (DW: "The End of Time, Part Two"); during this process, he also attempts to look up or contact all prior companions (SJA: Death of the Doctor)
January 2010: The Doctor and Amy Pond visit the Musée d'Orsay in Paris, France, where the Doctor detects a temporal incursion in the timeline of Dutch painter Vincent van Gogh; the Doctor, Amy Pond, and van Gogh return to the Musée, where van Gogh discovers his destiny as a famous artist; upon their return a third time, the Doctor and Amy find that this revelation did not avert van Gogh’s suicide (DW: “Vincent and the Doctor;” month is conjectural based upon winter weather); these events are possibly later erased from history or re-written by the Doctor’s closure of the Cracks in the Universe, though the Doctor and Amy Pond retain their memories of this incident (DW: “The Big Bang”)
March 2010: Torchwood Three leader Jack Harkness abandons Earth in the wake of being forced to murder his grandson in the 4-5-6 Crisis (TW: “Children of Earth, Day Five”); the Doctor visits Harkness in a pub in Zaggit Zagoo on Planet Zog prior to his regeneration, introduces him to former Stow space liner midshipman Alonso Frame; wedding of Donna Noble to Shaun Temple; the Doctor visits the Noble family one last time during the wedding, giving them a winning lottery ticket bought with money borrowed from the late Geoffrey Noble before regenerating (DW: “The End of Time, Part Two”)
4 April 2010: The 200 London Bus travels to San Helios; the Doctor saves Earth with help from British contingent of the Unified Intelligence Taskforce, discovers that he is prophesied to die or regenerate as “he will knock four times” (DW: "Planet of the Dead")
8-12 June 2010: The Doctor stranded in Colchester, Essex; the Doctor becomes a lodger of Craig Owens, discovers attempted alien TARDIS-like vessel preventing the TARDIS from landing, consuming humans; destruction of the imitation TARDIS (DW: “The Lodger;” dates conjectural based upon airdate); these events are possibly later erased out of history or re-written by the closure of the Cracks in the Universe, though the Doctor and Amy Pond retain their memories of this event (DW: “The Big Bang”)
25 June 2010: The Doctor returns to Leadworth, invites Amy Pond to travel with him the night before her wedding (DW: "The Eleventh Hour," “Flesh and Stone”); this event is later re-written out of history, though the Doctor and Amy Pond retain their memories of the event (DW: “The Big Bang”)
25-26 June 2010: In an altered timeline, the Doctor and Amy return to the Pond residence after the crash of the Byzantium, five minutes after Amy left Leadworth; Amy attempts to seduce the Doctor, who deduces that the day of her wedding will be the date of the origin of the Cracks in the Universe (DW: “Flesh and Stone”); these events are later re-written in some way by the closing of the Cracks, though the Doctor, Amy Pond, and River Song retain their memories of the event (DW: “The Big Bang”)
26 June 2010: In an altered timeline, agents of the Pandorica Alliance arrive in Leadworth, invade the Pond residence, and use snapshots of the house’s psychic residue to create the Pandorica scenario in 102 C.E. at Stonehenge; the TARDIS is drawn to the Pond residence immediately after the invasion, forcing 51st Century adventurer River Song to discover the invasion; the TARDIS is later taken over by the entity known as the Silence, exploding and causing total event collapse before the Doctor reverses the process; these events are later re-written out of history by the Doctor (DW: “The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang”)
26 June 2010: In an altered timeline, the Doctor visits Rory Williams at his bachelor party and invites him to travel to 16th Century Venice with him and Amy as a wedding gift (DW: “The Vampires of Venice”); this event is later re-written out of history, though the Doctor and Rory Williams retain their memories of the event (DW: “The Big Bang”)
26 June 2010: Marriage of Amy Pond and Rory Williams; River Song gives Amy an anonymous wedding gift; Amy Pond, retaining her subconscious memories of her travels with the Doctor in an altered timeline before his closing of the Cracks in the Universe, is able to consciously recall the Doctor after receiving Song’s diary, allowing the Doctor and the TARDIS to re-integrate into history; the Doctor visits Rory’s and Amy’s wedding, and then leaves with the two on a mission to rescue the future Orient Express (DW: “The Big Bang”) before bringing them to at least two alien worlds in honeymoon attempts (DW: “A Christmas Carol;” SJA: Death of the Doctor)
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June 2010: In this restored timeline, Amy Pond has achieved some fame as a fashion model (DW: “Closing Time;” conjecture to explain Amy’s fame in “Closing Time”)
June 2010-February 2011: Some time during this subjective interval, Amy Pond becomes pregnant with Melody Pond, the future River Song, after becoming intimate with her husband, Rory Williams, whilst inside the TARDIS in the Time Vortex (DW: “A Good Man Goes to War”)
October 2010: Sarah Jane Smith encounters the Doctor and Jo Jones, the former Jo Grant; Claw Shansheeth 15th Funeral Fleet falsifies the Doctor’s death and attempts to hijack the TARDIS (SJA: Death of the Doctor; date speculative based upon airdate)
February 2011: The Doctor returns Amy Pond and Rory Williams to their own time period (DW: “The Impossible Astronaut”)
February-April 2011: Some time during this interval, the pregnant Amy Pond is abducted by the Silence and transported to the 52nd Century, from where a remote controlled “Flesh” duplicate is automatically piloted by Pond without her knowledge (DW: “A Good Man Goes to War”)
April 2011: Amy Pond (possibly via her Flesh duplicate) is modeling for a new perfume fragrance known as Petrichor; the word will later gain significance for Amy during her travels with the Doctor (DW: “Closing Time,” “The Doctor’s Wife;”)
April 2011: The Flesh duplicate of Amy Pond and Rory Williams receive an invitation to travel to the United States to rendezvous with the Doctor (DW: “The Impossible Astronaut”)
18-21 April 2011: The Doctor, having travelled throughout history for two hundred subjective years putting off his destiny to die at Lake Silencio, travels to Colechester to meet with Craig Owens; the Doctor and Craig Owens thwart a Cybermen plot; the Doctor, resigned to his destiny, receives Craig’s post cards and cowboy hat on his way to Utah (DW: “Closing Time;” dates based upon the date in Craig’s newspaper)
22 April 2011: The Flesh duplicate of Amy Pond, Rory Williams, and River Song encounter a version of the Doctor from 200 years into his subjective future in Utah, United States; this future Doctor is later killed by what appears to be a figure wearing an American Apollo Program space suit from the 1960s; the Pond duplicate, Williams, and Song encounter Canton Everette Delaware III, and the Doctor (claiming to be a year older than when they last saw him), who also received an anonymous invitation similar to the ones received by the others (DW: “The Impossible Astronaut”)
22 April 2011: The Doctor, having avoided his destiny for two hundred years, intends to allow himself to be “killed” by River Song, whose older counterpart is watching from the beach with Rory Williams and the Flesh duplicate of Amy Pond; River, however, successfully averts his death, creating an alternate timeline that threatens complete temporal collapse; upon informing River of his plan to cheat death, the younger River “kills” the Doctor, who is actually piloting the Teselecta, which is impersonating him from the distant future (DW: “The Wedding of River Song”); the Doctor is aware that, should his survival be discovered, he will remain a target of the Silence, who seek to prevent him from being forced to answer the “First Question” on the Fields of Trenzalor, where no living being can speak falsely or fail to answer (DW: “The Wedding of River Song”)
22 April 2011: The Flesh duplicate of Amy Pond and Rory Williams resume travelling with the Doctor’s younger counterpart, at first concealing the fact that they watched him die on orders from the older counterpart of River Song (DW: “Day of the Moon”)
May 2011: River Song returns the original Amy Pond and Rory Williams to Leadworth, England, after the Silence successfully kidnaps their daughter Melody, River’s infant self, from the 52nd Century, while the Doctor begins his search for the infant (DW: “A Good Man Goes to War,” “Let’s Kill Hitler;” month is conjecture based upon airdates)
May-August 2011: Amy Pond and Rory Williams attempt to contact the Doctor several times during his search for the infant Melody Pond after the events at Demon’s Run in the 52nd Century (DW: “Let’s Kill Hitler”)
August 2011: Amy Pond and Rory Williams create a crop circle in Leadworth, England, reading “DOCTOR” in order to provoke the Doctor to return from his quest; under the guise of “Mels,” Melody Pond, the future River Song, hijacks the TARDIS and forces the Doctor to travel with her and her parents to 1939 Berlin in a bid to assassinate German dictator Adolf Hitler, whereupon she regenerates into the incarnation that later becomes known as River Song; Amy Pond and Rory Williams resume traveling with the Doctor (DW: “Let’s Kill Hitler”)
September 2011: The Doctor, Amy Pond, and Rory Williams respond to a telepathic summons from the Tezna child known as George Thompson, discover the truth of his conception and the Peg Dolls (DW: “Night Terrors”)
September 2011: Death of British police officer Lucy Hayward at the hands of the Minotaur; the Doctor, Amy Pond, and Rory Williams land on the Minotaur Prison Ship, and encounter Rita Afzal, Howie Spragg, Joe Buchanan, and Gibbis of Trivoli; death of Rita Afzal and the others; the Doctor returns Amy Pond and Rory Williams to Earth in a home he has arranged to have purchased for them (DW: “The God Complex”)
October 2011: River Song, travelling from a point in her timeline shortly after the crash of the Byzantium, arrives in the home of her parents, Amy Pond and Rory Williams, to inform them that the Doctor did not die the previous April, but has instead faked his own death to avoid continued persecution from the Silence (DW: “The Wedding of River Song”)
27 July 2012: The Doctor and Rose Tyler save the 2012 Summer Olympiad in London (DW: "Fear Her")
25 December 2013: The Doctor arrives at the home of Amy Pond and Rory Williams to inform them that his death was falsified and he has survived; he is forgiven and invited to Christmas dinner (DW: “The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe;” date based upon “two years” since the Doctor returned them to September 2011)
May 2020: Silurian incident in Cwmtaff, South Wales; Silurians re-enter hibernation after failed peace talks with Humans; death and erasure from the timeline of Rory Williams (DW: “The Hungry Earth;” “Cold Blood;” month conjectural based upon airdate); these events are later either erased from or re-written in history by the Doctor’s closure of the Cracks in the universe, though the Doctor, Amy Pond, and Rory Williams retain their memories of these events (DW: “The Big Bang”)
1 July 2058: Bowie Base One established by the World State in the Gusev Crater on Mars (DW: "The Waters of Mars")
21 November 2059: Infiltration of Bowie Base One by the Flood; destruction of Bowie Base One on orders of Captain Adelaide Brooke; the Doctor rescues Captain Brooke and two crew members who had originally died on Mars; Captain Brooke commits suicide rather than alter the timeline from one of its "fixed points" (DW: "The Waters of Mars")
June 2010: In this restored timeline, Amy Pond has achieved some fame as a fashion model (DW: “Closing Time;” conjecture to explain Amy’s fame in “Closing Time”)
June 2010-February 2011: Some time during this subjective interval, Amy Pond becomes pregnant with Melody Pond, the future River Song, after becoming intimate with her husband, Rory Williams, whilst inside the TARDIS in the Time Vortex (DW: “A Good Man Goes to War”)
October 2010: Sarah Jane Smith encounters the Doctor and Jo Jones, the former Jo Grant; Claw Shansheeth 15th Funeral Fleet falsifies the Doctor’s death and attempts to hijack the TARDIS (SJA: Death of the Doctor; date speculative based upon airdate)
February 2011: The Doctor returns Amy Pond and Rory Williams to their own time period (DW: “The Impossible Astronaut”)
February-April 2011: Some time during this interval, the pregnant Amy Pond is abducted by the Silence and transported to the 52nd Century, from where a remote controlled “Flesh” duplicate is automatically piloted by Pond without her knowledge (DW: “A Good Man Goes to War”)
April 2011: Amy Pond (possibly via her Flesh duplicate) is modeling for a new perfume fragrance known as Petrichor; the word will later gain significance for Amy during her travels with the Doctor (DW: “Closing Time,” “The Doctor’s Wife;”)
April 2011: The Flesh duplicate of Amy Pond and Rory Williams receive an invitation to travel to the United States to rendezvous with the Doctor (DW: “The Impossible Astronaut”)
18-21 April 2011: The Doctor, having travelled throughout history for two hundred subjective years putting off his destiny to die at Lake Silencio, travels to Colechester to meet with Craig Owens; the Doctor and Craig Owens thwart a Cybermen plot; the Doctor, resigned to his destiny, receives Craig’s post cards and cowboy hat on his way to Utah (DW: “Closing Time;” dates based upon the date in Craig’s newspaper)
22 April 2011: The Flesh duplicate of Amy Pond, Rory Williams, and River Song encounter a version of the Doctor from 200 years into his subjective future in Utah, United States; this future Doctor is later killed by what appears to be a figure wearing an American Apollo Program space suit from the 1960s; the Pond duplicate, Williams, and Song encounter Canton Everette Delaware III, and the Doctor (claiming to be a year older than when they last saw him), who also received an anonymous invitation similar to the ones received by the others (DW: “The Impossible Astronaut”)
22 April 2011: The Doctor, having avoided his destiny for two hundred years, intends to allow himself to be “killed” by River Song, whose older counterpart is watching from the beach with Rory Williams and the Flesh duplicate of Amy Pond; River, however, successfully averts his death, creating an alternate timeline that threatens complete temporal collapse; upon informing River of his plan to cheat death, the younger River “kills” the Doctor, who is actually piloting the Teselecta, which is impersonating him from the distant future (DW: “The Wedding of River Song”); the Doctor is aware that, should his survival be discovered, he will remain a target of the Silence, who seek to prevent him from being forced to answer the “First Question” on the Fields of Trenzalor, where no living being can speak falsely or fail to answer (DW: “The Wedding of River Song”)
22 April 2011: The Flesh duplicate of Amy Pond and Rory Williams resume travelling with the Doctor’s younger counterpart, at first concealing the fact that they watched him die on orders from the older counterpart of River Song (DW: “Day of the Moon”)
May 2011: River Song returns the original Amy Pond and Rory Williams to Leadworth, England, after the Silence successfully kidnaps their daughter Melody, River’s infant self, from the 52nd Century, while the Doctor begins his search for the infant (DW: “A Good Man Goes to War,” “Let’s Kill Hitler;” month is conjecture based upon airdates)
May-August 2011: Amy Pond and Rory Williams attempt to contact the Doctor several times during his search for the infant Melody Pond after the events at Demon’s Run in the 52nd Century (DW: “Let’s Kill Hitler”)
August 2011: Amy Pond and Rory Williams create a crop circle in Leadworth, England, reading “DOCTOR” in order to provoke the Doctor to return from his quest; under the guise of “Mels,” Melody Pond, the future River Song, hijacks the TARDIS and forces the Doctor to travel with her and her parents to 1939 Berlin in a bid to assassinate German dictator Adolf Hitler, whereupon she regenerates into the incarnation that later becomes known as River Song; Amy Pond and Rory Williams resume traveling with the Doctor (DW: “Let’s Kill Hitler”)
September 2011: The Doctor, Amy Pond, and Rory Williams respond to a telepathic summons from the Tezna child known as George Thompson, discover the truth of his conception and the Peg Dolls (DW: “Night Terrors”)
September 2011: Death of British police officer Lucy Hayward at the hands of the Minotaur; the Doctor, Amy Pond, and Rory Williams land on the Minotaur Prison Ship, and encounter Rita Afzal, Howie Spragg, Joe Buchanan, and Gibbis of Trivoli; death of Rita Afzal and the others; the Doctor returns Amy Pond and Rory Williams to Earth in a home he has arranged to have purchased for them (DW: “The God Complex”)
October 2011: River Song, travelling from a point in her timeline shortly after the crash of the Byzantium, arrives in the home of her parents, Amy Pond and Rory Williams, to inform them that the Doctor did not die the previous April, but has instead faked his own death to avoid continued persecution from the Silence (DW: “The Wedding of River Song”)
27 July 2012: The Doctor and Rose Tyler save the 2012 Summer Olympiad in London (DW: "Fear Her")
25 December 2013: The Doctor arrives at the home of Amy Pond and Rory Williams to inform them that his death was falsified and he has survived; he is forgiven and invited to Christmas dinner (DW: “The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe;” date based upon “two years” since the Doctor returned them to September 2011)
May 2020: Silurian incident in Cwmtaff, South Wales; Silurians re-enter hibernation after failed peace talks with Humans; death and erasure from the timeline of Rory Williams (DW: “The Hungry Earth;” “Cold Blood;” month conjectural based upon airdate); these events are later either erased from or re-written in history by the Doctor’s closure of the Cracks in the universe, though the Doctor, Amy Pond, and Rory Williams retain their memories of these events (DW: “The Big Bang”)
1 July 2058: Bowie Base One established by the World State in the Gusev Crater on Mars (DW: "The Waters of Mars")
21 November 2059: Infiltration of Bowie Base One by the Flood; destruction of Bowie Base One on orders of Captain Adelaide Brooke; the Doctor rescues Captain Brooke and two crew members who had originally died on Mars; Captain Brooke commits suicide rather than alter the timeline from one of its "fixed points" (DW: "The Waters of Mars")
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This is awesome; however you are including the TVM and Tochwood but EX-cluding some of the more notable original series events to happen in the space of your timeline. I know you're concentrating on the current series, but there are a few things that can be mentioned. For example:
November 1985: The Sixth Doctor and Peri visit Totter's Lane and encounters the Cybermen in the sewers of London.
December 1986: Mondas comes into close proximity of Earth; the First Doctor's first and last encounter with the Cybermen.
November 1988: Nemesis returns to Earth, attracting the Cybermen to capture it.
1989: The Seventh Doctor and Ace arrive in Perivale to thwart a scheme of the Master and the Cheetah People.
Then there's the events of "Battlefield" which happen at some point in the 90s (presumably before the passing of the Brig), and a variety of visits by the Fourth and Fifth Doctors in the early 80s, but those truly exceed the scope of what you're doing here.
Mark
November 1985: The Sixth Doctor and Peri visit Totter's Lane and encounters the Cybermen in the sewers of London.
December 1986: Mondas comes into close proximity of Earth; the First Doctor's first and last encounter with the Cybermen.
November 1988: Nemesis returns to Earth, attracting the Cybermen to capture it.
1989: The Seventh Doctor and Ace arrive in Perivale to thwart a scheme of the Master and the Cheetah People.
Then there's the events of "Battlefield" which happen at some point in the 90s (presumably before the passing of the Brig), and a variety of visits by the Fourth and Fifth Doctors in the early 80s, but those truly exceed the scope of what you're doing here.
Mark
Thanks!
I mean, I'm basically only including what I've seen, what I like, and/or what I think can be reconciled logically into a coherent timeline. Hence, for instance, my decision to include Torchwood: Children of Earth yet exclude Torchwood: Miracle Day.
I had ignored almost everything pre-nuWho save the TV movie because I hadn't seen most of it and wasn't interested in it, and because there hadn't been any need to go beyond 1986 in the timeline. Given that "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon" forced me to push back to 1969, I'm considering sitting down and deciding from clues in The Sarah Jane Adventures and modern Who what years I think the Doctor's UNIT days most probably happened in and including at least one entry on that.
If I do that, I'll probably also push the timeline back to at least 1913 and try to encompass all of the 20th Century sequences from nuWho ("Human Nature," "The Empty Child," "Victory of the Daleks," "The Idiot's Lantern," etc). But that's a project for another time.
I have no intention of adding much else from DW TOS, with the possible exception of an entry for "An Unearthly Child;" DW TOS is far too large a canon to try, and I've never been interested in it.
Twice? We know she regenerated from the little girl in New York to Mels, but then her next regeneration would have been after Hitler shot her. Or is this your way to explain how she could be a 30 year old child?
Fun fact: an early version of the script for The End of Time had Mr Nasmith (that was his name, wasn't it?) mentioning he recently returned from America where he met with Henry Van Statten. Yes, it never made it to air so we don't have to acknowledge it, but imagine if it had.
Date on the newspaper aside, I prefer to place Closing Time and Amy's career as a model the release of the Petrichor fragrance between October 2011 and Christmas 2013. But Closing Time is rather convoluted as far as dates are concerned and I can't fault you for sticking to the one that is on screen.
you spelt Colchester wrong.
Exactly. We know for a fact that her "Mels" incarnation aged normally -- that she was seemingly about eight or thereabouts, and aged along with Lil' Rory and Amelia. Since we know Amy was born in 1989, that means she met "Mels" circa 1997 -- 27 years after Melody regenerated for the first time in New York. Given that "Mels" aged consistently, it seems highly improbable that she would have regenerated from "Melody" into "Mels" in 1970, stayed around eight years old for twenty-seven years, and then started aging normally along with her parents.
Besides, there's also the fact that, somehow, she managed to move from the United States to Britain, track down her parents, and set up all the paperwork for her to be attending school. Kind of hard to get through Customs and find good fake IDs when you have the body of a prepubescent child. So I think it's more plausible that in 1970, she regenerated into a second incarnation that aged normally; that, sometime between 1970 and around 1996/7ish, she discovered the true identity of her parents and figured out how to track them down as children; that she used her adult life in her second incarnation to set up a life for herself as a child in Leadworth; and that she regenerated circa 1996 or 1997 to assume the guise of "Mels."
So, to make a comparison to the Doctor's regenerative nomenclature -- the little girl in "The Impossible Planet" was the First River; whomever she regenerated into at the end of "Day of the Moon" was the Second River; "Mels" was the Third River; and "Professor River Song, Archaeologist" is the Fourth River.
Interesting -- I did not realize that! Ad it made it to air, I suppose I would have had to just resort to Wibbly-Wobbly-Timey-Whimey.
Yeah, I mean, coming up with a good place to put "Closing Time" was just a pain in the ass all around. In the end, I decided that a couple of factors came into play with putting it literally a few days before Lake Silencio:
1. The newspaper, as cited.
2. I had initially thought it odd that Amy could have such a successful career so soon after returning to Earth, and wondered if perhaps the Doctor had accidentally placed two Amies and Rories. Then it occurred to me that most of Amy's life before the Doctor returned to her was completely unestablished now, because everything that had been established about her life between meeting the "Raggedy Doctor" and the Atraxi crisis had been changed by the erasure of the Crack from history and the restoration of her parents to the timeline. Amy had clearly not been living up to her full potential in the Cracked timeline, but now that her parents have always been there, it made sense to me to think that she's been chasing more of her ambitions, and to think that she may well have had some professional success well before marrying Rory.
3. Yeah, I fudged it on the "Petrichor" thing. I assume that's just the TARDIS, having a nice laugh with Amy's life. You've got to squint a little to make "Closing Time" work. But it's obviously a very subjective thing, where to put it -- your interpretation is as valid as mine.
Whoops! Thanks -- I'll go fix that in the file all this is saved on.
We have no facts to show that Mels aged normally her whole life, we just know that she aged normally from the point she inserted herself into the lives of Rory and Amy.
There's also no indication to suggest another regeneration, in fact doesn't Mels or River pretty much say this in the episode? Additionally if she could will herself to regenerate into a child this suggests an ability we've only seen one Timelord actually show before, ie the ability to determine your new body, and that was Romana. Obviously the Timelords gave the Second Doctor a choice but that was a regeneration being controlled by the Timelords themsevles. What we're talking about here is someone who isn't even fully a Timelord, who's had no instruction in her abilities other than that given to her by the silence, who I guess must have explained about regeneration given she didn't seem surprised in that New York alley, but to suggest they'd teach her better than an actual Timelord stretches things a bit. Remember the Doctor has no control over his regenerations, he can't even make himself ginger. (at the risk of contradicting my own argument here it might be fair to suggest that a Timelord who isn't dying could have more control over their regenerations, and there's the comments of the Yana Master saying if the Doctor could be young and strong so could he, but I'd put that more down to him knowing it wasn't likely he'd regenerate into anyone older.)
Couple of other options.
1. After the 1970 regeneration Mels made it back to the Silence's proto TARDIS and simply hopped forwards to 1997, possibly dropping the proto TARDIS off, oh lets say in Colchester...
2. Mels lived a normal life up to 1997, when she then de-aged herself to match ages with her parents. Ok bit a stretch I know (but no more than her willing herself to regenerate into a child) but one of the first things River says is that she might make herself look younger as she grows older, just to freak people out?
Who knows at the end of the day (Stephen Moffat, possibly!) and your suggestion is no less valid than mine, just wanted to suggest there were other options.
There's also no indication to suggest another regeneration, in fact doesn't Mels or River pretty much say this in the episode? Additionally if she could will herself to regenerate into a child this suggests an ability we've only seen one Timelord actually show before, ie the ability to determine your new body, and that was Romana. Obviously the Timelords gave the Second Doctor a choice but that was a regeneration being controlled by the Timelords themsevles. What we're talking about here is someone who isn't even fully a Timelord, who's had no instruction in her abilities other than that given to her by the silence, who I guess must have explained about regeneration given she didn't seem surprised in that New York alley, but to suggest they'd teach her better than an actual Timelord stretches things a bit. Remember the Doctor has no control over his regenerations, he can't even make himself ginger. (at the risk of contradicting my own argument here it might be fair to suggest that a Timelord who isn't dying could have more control over their regenerations, and there's the comments of the Yana Master saying if the Doctor could be young and strong so could he, but I'd put that more down to him knowing it wasn't likely he'd regenerate into anyone older.)
Couple of other options.
1. After the 1970 regeneration Mels made it back to the Silence's proto TARDIS and simply hopped forwards to 1997, possibly dropping the proto TARDIS off, oh lets say in Colchester...
2. Mels lived a normal life up to 1997, when she then de-aged herself to match ages with her parents. Ok bit a stretch I know (but no more than her willing herself to regenerate into a child) but one of the first things River says is that she might make herself look younger as she grows older, just to freak people out?
Who knows at the end of the day (Stephen Moffat, possibly!) and your suggestion is no less valid than mine, just wanted to suggest there were other options.
Like I said, it's not impossible, but it seems highly implausible. There's no indication that River has any control over her aging process, and there's no indication that her incarnations don't age normally from the completion of their regeneration. On top of that, there's the question of how someone who is externally an 8-year-old could work out the logistics of moving to England and inserting herself into Leadworth village life.
No. There's no line whatsoever to preclude an unseen regeneration between the one in "Day of the Moon" and the one in "Let's Kill Hitler."
Now, yeah, this is speculative. But it's consistent with all the evidence. Sure, I could be wrong and Moffat might insert a line later contradicting my hypothesis here -- but until then, I think it's more plausible to hypothesize an unseen incarnation between "Melody Pond" and "Mels," to account for the passage of time and for the logistics of setting up her life as the child Mels.
Honestly, between that line of the Master's and Romana's apparent ability to control her regenerations, I always assumed that the Doctor is just really bad at regenerating.
You know -- natural variation in talent. Some people are bad at singing, some people are bad at dancing, some people are bad at drawing, some people are bad at regenerating into a new body....Now, that one is an interesting option, given that it accounts for both the time lapse and some of the logistics of moving to Leadworth. (Doesn't explain how she got herself registered for school, though--I assume English villages don't just let eight-year-olds register themselves for elementary school...)
Oh, sure. I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear that this is my hypothesis, not that I'm making a firm declaration of This Must Be So.
Rather than make her own way back to the proto-Tardis, couldn't the Silence have moved her and set up all the Leadworth arrangements as necessary? It's not like she'd remember them doing it....
The whole Silence/Melody/River stuff is barely coherent at all - well done for speculating so thoroughly on how it can actually all fit together in, what for this show, is a sensible fashion
Why would they? She'd already escaped from the Silence's custody at that point, and they wouldn't have cared if she got to "grow up" with her parents (her stated reason for finding them in Leadworth).
Well, thanks, but I actually think it's fairly coherent. To me, the only real problem is the Silence's relationship with the Church and the Headless Monks, which still seems unexplained.The whole Silence/Melody/River stuff is barely coherent at all - well done for speculating so thoroughly on how it can actually all fit together in, what for this show, is a sensible fashion
They're time travellers.
Perhaps some day you may feel differently. It is after all, the same canon.
I'd like to see someone try and reconcile UNIT dating! 
Yes.
Oh, I read that as a compliment
Oh, I read that as a compliment
It probably was.
I wasn't being serious.
I do like the idea of an extra regeneration being squeezed in there; it becomes a moot point really quickly as River gives up her remaining regenerations mere hours later (waitaminit - couldn't she have done something analogous to the Tenth Doctor regrowing his arm, saving the Eleventh and keeping her regenerative capacity? Digression end).
Furthermore, TOS and the expanded canon makes subtle suggestions that some Time Lords, and specifically female Time Lords (ladies?), are able to pre-determine their appearance upon regeneration: Romana's wierd sequence in "Destiny of the Daleks", and I'm pretty sure at some point in old who (TV or novel) the Rani mentions a cryptic ability at being able to do just that. Mels' comments on focusing on a dress size seem to play into this. Then again, at least one Time Lord had regenerated into both genders in one point in their history, so...
Mark
Furthermore, TOS and the expanded canon makes subtle suggestions that some Time Lords, and specifically female Time Lords (ladies?), are able to pre-determine their appearance upon regeneration: Romana's wierd sequence in "Destiny of the Daleks", and I'm pretty sure at some point in old who (TV or novel) the Rani mentions a cryptic ability at being able to do just that. Mels' comments on focusing on a dress size seem to play into this. Then again, at least one Time Lord had regenerated into both genders in one point in their history, so...
Mark
But also keep in mind that Melody, Mels or River isn't a pure Time Lord. She is the product of being conceived in The Time Vortex and then presumably having her DNA altered by The Silence and Madam Kovarian's goons.