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Computer me this...

I know TREK takes place in the far future. But what episode/movie do you think had the most realistic use of the computer. Based on where we are know, and where we might be in 300+ years, was there an episode where you, you so called computer expert, said you yourself "Hmmmm, yeah...that sounds feasible"...

And on the flip side? What use of the computer really stretched it?

Rob
 
I don't know about the most realistic, but that bit with Scotty on the old 1980s computer in TVH was really stretching it. Even I know that computers don't do that just by punching a few buttons, no matter how advanced the user is.
 
I don't know about the most realistic, but that bit with Scotty on the old 1980s computer in TVH was really stretching it. Even I know that computers don't do that just by punching a few buttons, no matter how advanced the user is.

Yeah...but talking to the mouse was funny.

Isn't it incredible how far COMPUTERS have come since that move?

Rob
 
I agree. It was a wonderful scene. But it just wasn't realistic. In the long run, that really doesn't matter much. It's all the suspension of disbelief.
 
I agree. It was a wonderful scene. But it just wasn't realistic. In the long run, that really doesn't matter much. It's all the suspension of disbelief.

Agreed..which is why 'general public' loved that movie. Fish-out-of-water time travelers from the future... that is what made that movie so fun...

Rob
 
What about when in TNG the Enterprise computer created that life form? Could a computer ever get so advanced that it can start procreating life whenever it feels the urge? Has there ever been a follow-up story done on it?
 
What about when in TNG the Enterprise computer created that life form? Could a computer ever get so advanced that it can start procreating life whenever it feels the urge? Has there ever been a follow-up story done on it?

Jesus that would be scary if a computer could do that.......or maybe it could be interesting...First thing I'd have the computer create would be a friggin maid...make my life a little easier huh?
 
What about when in TNG the Enterprise computer created that life form? Could a computer ever get so advanced that it can start procreating life whenever it feels the urge? Has there ever been a follow-up story done on it?

Jesus that would be scary if a computer could do that.......or maybe it could be interesting...First thing I'd have the computer create would be a friggin maid...make my life a little easier huh?

Usually these kind of things are driven by the sex industry (DVDS and VHS for example). Now, naked maids?? THAT would be great.

Rob
 
What about when in TNG the Enterprise computer created that life form? Could a computer ever get so advanced that it can start procreating life whenever it feels the urge? Has there ever been a follow-up story done on it?

Jesus that would be scary if a computer could do that.......or maybe it could be interesting...First thing I'd have the computer create would be a friggin maid...make my life a little easier huh?

Usually these kind of things are driven by the sex industry (DVDS and VHS for example). Now, naked maids?? THAT would be great.

Rob

Well that was going to be my next suggestion but for once I didn't want to look like a pervert :lol:. But yeah..naked maids that have a mute button! LOL
 
Jesus that would be scary if a computer could do that.......or maybe it could be interesting...First thing I'd have the computer create would be a friggin maid...make my life a little easier huh?

Usually these kind of things are driven by the sex industry (DVDS and VHS for example). Now, naked maids?? THAT would be great.

Rob

Well that was going to be my next suggestion but for once I didn't want to look like a pervert :lol:. But yeah..naked maids that have a mute button! LOL

And were satisfied after two minutes of "work"

Rob
 
What about the computer in the movie Weird Science? Anthony Michael Hall makes a real live woman built to his specifications shoot OUT OF HIS COMPUTER SCREEN using a 1983 Apple II? What the fuck software was he running, anyway?
 
^An early version of Adobe Womanshop.

The answer to the first question of the OP is "none of them." Star Trek isn't really about predicting advances in computer technology per se--and it really shows.
 
The answer to the first question of the OP is "none of them." Star Trek isn't really about predicting advances in computer technology per se--and it really shows.

From someone who knows little about computers other than how to type stuff on internet forums... ;)

What advances would you see as realistic?
 
Well, it's self-inconsistent, for one thing--the position of helmsman is arguably redundant, even in the way, given the computer's ability to understand spoken commands. "Maximum warp to Delta IV" could be undertaken by the computer more quickly than relaying the command to a helm officer who then types it into the LCARS interface. To a lesser but commensurate degree, the computer could replace the tactical officer as well. The computer is even apparently capable of replacing a medical officer and his or her staff, which means that the entire Science Division is vulnerable.

Need I mention TOS' penchant for destroying computers with illogic? Firstly, a series of commands that a computer cannot perform is ordinarily met with an error message and not an explosion. Divide something by zero on a pocket calculator for proof of this assertion. Secondly, a computer capable of passing the Turing test, whether through Searle's Chinese room dodge or because of its own emergent consciousness, is not likely to be vulnerable to the line "This statement is false." Check your head to see if it blew up for proof of this assertion.

I don't even want to get in to the travesty that was Voyager's Doctor, the ultimate read-only file.

Advancements I think would be consistent with the technological abilities already on display would include widespread artificial intelligences, not just a few, vast automation, actual virtual reality as opposed to the insanely energy-wasteful holodeck, and the capability to copy consciousnesses. All of these techniques exist, or at the least the prerequisites for them do, but the implications are almost entirely ignored, for the very understandable sake of relatable drama.

But, really, applying the technology they have or could have, there's little need for biological human beings any longer.
 
So now that the new movie is out, how does the new computer technology hold up? Does the new Star Trek film really make computers a realistic future projection, or just more cool-looking than what we have seen before?
 
Well, it's self-inconsistent, for one thing--the position of helmsman is arguably redundant, even in the way, given the computer's ability to understand spoken commands. "Maximum warp to Delta IV" could be undertaken by the computer more quickly than relaying the command to a helm officer who then types it into the LCARS interface. To a lesser but commensurate degree, the computer could replace the tactical officer as well. The computer is even apparently capable of replacing a medical officer and his or her staff, which means that the entire Science Division is vulnerable.

Need I mention TOS' penchant for destroying computers with illogic? Firstly, a series of commands that a computer cannot perform is ordinarily met with an error message and not an explosion. Divide something by zero on a pocket calculator for proof of this assertion. Secondly, a computer capable of passing the Turing test, whether through Searle's Chinese room dodge or because of its own emergent consciousness, is not likely to be vulnerable to the line "This statement is false." Check your head to see if it blew up for proof of this assertion.

I don't even want to get in to the travesty that was Voyager's Doctor, the ultimate read-only file.

Advancements I think would be consistent with the technological abilities already on display would include widespread artificial intelligences, not just a few, vast automation, actual virtual reality as opposed to the insanely energy-wasteful holodeck, and the capability to copy consciousnesses. All of these techniques exist, or at the least the prerequisites for them do, but the implications are almost entirely ignored, for the very understandable sake of relatable drama.

But, really, applying the technology they have or could have, there's little need for biological human beings any longer.

Good post.
 
Well, it's self-inconsistent, for one thing--the position of helmsman is arguably redundant, even in the way, given the computer's ability to understand spoken commands. "Maximum warp to Delta IV" could be undertaken by the computer more quickly than relaying the command to a helm officer who then types it into the LCARS interface. To a lesser but commensurate degree, the computer could replace the tactical officer as well. The computer is even apparently capable of replacing a medical officer and his or her staff, which means that the entire Science Division is vulnerable.

Need I mention TOS' penchant for destroying computers with illogic? Firstly, a series of commands that a computer cannot perform is ordinarily met with an error message and not an explosion. Divide something by zero on a pocket calculator for proof of this assertion. Secondly, a computer capable of passing the Turing test, whether through Searle's Chinese room dodge or because of its own emergent consciousness, is not likely to be vulnerable to the line "This statement is false." Check your head to see if it blew up for proof of this assertion.

I don't even want to get in to the travesty that was Voyager's Doctor, the ultimate read-only file.

Advancements I think would be consistent with the technological abilities already on display would include widespread artificial intelligences, not just a few, vast automation, actual virtual reality as opposed to the insanely energy-wasteful holodeck, and the capability to copy consciousnesses. All of these techniques exist, or at the least the prerequisites for them do, but the implications are almost entirely ignored, for the very understandable sake of relatable drama.

But, really, applying the technology they have or could have, there's little need for biological human beings any longer.

Good post.

Not only good..BUT DEPRESSING!!!

Rob
 
I don't find it that depressing. Humans are pretty gross. :p

Perhaps...but in Star Trek terms? The Jem Hedar/Cardassians and Klingons are far far more brutal than we are...I mean, heck, if we take DS9 seriously, then the JemHedar/Breen killed over 250 million cardassians in about a day...no human massacre can compare..

Rob
 
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