Colonizing the Moon: Are you up for it?

[yellowdingo]

Title: Colonizing the Moon

Description: The one way transfer of ten million colonists to the Moon over a two hundred year period. This requires the launch of single stage Vehicles that will also function as Landers and Habitats. These Launchers will have capacity of storage to provide the Colonists with Two Years of Food and the Hydroponic and Aquaculture Capacity to produce Food into the future not only sufficient to sustain the colony, but to cope with growth in Population.

CAPACITY OF LAUNCHER
10,000,000 colonists/200 years=50,000 colonists/year
50,000 colonists/365 days=137 colonists per day
137 colonists/24 Launch vehicles/day=6 Colonists/Launcher

LAUNCHER COLONIST CAPACITY (6)
ERRORLESS LAUNCH RATE (24 LAUNCH VEHICLES/DAY)

ALLOCATION OF LAUNCHERS
24 launchers/day x 365 days x 200 years=1,762,000 Launchers
10,000,000 colonists/6 colonists = 1,666,667 Launchers
1,762,000-1,666,667 = 95,333 Surplus Launchers

PASSENGER CARRYING LAUNCHERS (1,666,667)
RESUPPLY/SPECIALIST CARGO LAUNCHERS (95,333)

COST
$100,000,000,000/Launcher x 1,762,000 Launchers = $176.2x 10^15

ANNUAL COST ($811 x 10^12)
TOTAL COST ($176.2x 10^15)

Requirement: The State of Luna borrows the funds necessary to Colonize the Moon over the next two hundred Years with a diverse Globaly selected/recruited Population.

The Time has come to harrass your Federal Government into conformity. If you want to go to the Moon Send this to your local representative.

 

[RJDiogenes]

There would be no need to transfer ten million colonists over a couple of centuries. There would be a viable, self-sustaining population long before that. Once an actually colony was started-- probably as collateral growth from a McMurdo-like base-- it probably wouldn't take even fifty years.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I hope the colony would be capable of withstanding a strike from a fair sized asteroid. How do you propose we protect the colony from asteroids?

 

[Deckerd]

I imagine there would be some fairly serious physiological problems involved with humans living in such a low gravity.

 

[Starkers]

Yeah the moon's a nice place to visit but I'd rather live on Mars...and even then you'd be talking muscle deteriation. Living permanantly on the moon would entail severe evolutionary changes for the human race--until we invent artificial gravity anyway

And why a one way trip? In astronomical terms the moon is the Isle of Wight to Earth's England!!

 

[Kelso]

Sure... as long as the colonists pay for it.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

We need to concentrate on colonising Venus, the gravity is closer to Earths.
Go here for ideas on Terraforming venus.

 

[Sean Aaron]

No, I'm not up for it, but try the guy upstairs from me.

 

[Franklin]

No. But I'll be glad to drop in for a visit.

 

[jgdst]

Yeah the moon's a nice place to visit but I'd rather live on Mars...and even then you'd be talking muscle deteriation. Living permanantly on the moon would entail severe evolutionary changes for the human race--until we invent artificial gravity anyway

And why a one way trip? In astronomical terms the moon is the Isle of Wight to Earth's England!!

Children eighteen feet tall and with arms to happy slap and disrespect you from across the room. No good can come from this.

Loved the comparison at the end

 

[Arrqh]

There would be a viable, self-sustaining population long before that.

I imagine there would be some fairly serious physiological problems involved with humans living in such a low gravity.

And putting these two together, I'd imagine there'd be some potentially very seriously physiological problems for developing children in a low gravity environment which would make a self-sustaining population either difficult or impossible.

 

[Canadave]

We need to concentrate on colonising Venus, the gravity is closer to Earths.
Go here for ideas on Terraforming venus.

The gravity may be the closest, but overall it's about the farthest you can get from optimal conditions. We'd probably have more luck colonizing even Mercury, I think.

 

[Mallory]

I'll be waving as they leave.

 

[Sean Aaron]

I'll be waving as they leave.

I think I could manage two fingers...

 

[John Picard]

I don't believe we should be displacing indigenous peoples.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

We need to concentrate on colonising Venus, the gravity is closer to Earths.
Go here for ideas on Terraforming venus.

The gravity may be the closest, but overall it's about the farthest you can get from optimal conditions. We'd probably have more luck colonizing even Mercury, I think.

All you need to do is dispose of the CO2 and then produce an ozone layer. Then you can introduce mass quantities of water without fear of it escaping Venus' atmosphere.

 

[Canadave]

We need to concentrate on colonising Venus, the gravity is closer to Earths.
Go here for ideas on Terraforming venus.

The gravity may be the closest, but overall it's about the farthest you can get from optimal conditions. We'd probably have more luck colonizing even Mercury, I think.

All you need to do is dispose of the CO2 and then produce some Trioxygen (O3) to create an ozone layer. Then you can introduce mass quantities of water without fear of it escaping Venus' atmosphere.

Ah yes. "All we need". Pretty simple. Can't believe I didn't think of it.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

The gravity may be the closest, but overall it's about the farthest you can get from optimal conditions. We'd probably have more luck colonizing even Mercury, I think.

All you need to do is dispose of the CO2 and then produce some Trioxygen (O3) to create an ozone layer. Then you can introduce mass quantities of water without fear of it escaping Venus' atmosphere.

Ah yes. "All we need". Pretty simple. Can't believe I didn't think of it.

Yes actually it will be pretty simple. By the time we've got the technology and expertise to colonise Mars we'll have the capability to start Terraforming Venus. Mars barely has an atmosphere and the gravity sucks, Venus could become a second Earth.

 

[MANT!]

We need to concentrate on colonising Venus, the gravity is closer to Earths.
Go here for ideas on Terraforming venus.

The gravity may be the closest, but overall it's about the farthest you can get from optimal conditions. We'd probably have more luck colonizing even Mercury, I think.

All you need to do is dispose of the CO2 and then produce an ozone layer. Then you can introduce mass quantities of water without fear of it escaping Venus' atmosphere.

Well one theory is to propel water based comets and asteroids to collide with Venus and blow off the excess atmosphere cooling the planet..

but that will take thousands of years..and the Human race can't think much beyond the next election..

 

[All Seeing Eye]

The gravity may be the closest, but overall it's about the farthest you can get from optimal conditions. We'd probably have more luck colonizing even Mercury, I think.

All you need to do is dispose of the CO2 and then produce an ozone layer. Then you can introduce mass quantities of water without fear of it escaping Venus' atmosphere.

Well one theory is to propel water based comets and asteroids to collide with Venus and blow off the excess atmosphere cooling the planet..

but that will take thousands of years..and the Human race can't think much beyond the next election..

or we could just suck the CO2 out of the atmosphere and into space using technology instead of asteroids. Build extractors on Venus' surface and build a space elevator and you can ship the stuff to Mars or just blow it into space. Alternatively use extractors that float in the thick dense atmosphere and have it pump the CO2 into space by sending it through a pipeline to an orbiting platform which then releases it.
The platforms could literally use the CO2 gas to create thrust to keep itself positioned or reposition itself when necessary.