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Coca-Cola Zero / Pepsi Zero

So, what was the deal with that special Pepsi over the summer, that had the "natural" sugar instead of what I assume is glucose or fructose?

Any benefits of this? Or just different taste? I tried 1 or 2 cans, but I drink Cherry Pepsi exclusively, so it was hard to make a determination.

Looking at Pepsi under wiki, there's dozens of different "types" we never see here in the US (Pepsi Ice Cucumber -- Ick).
 
thestrangequark said:
I avoid all of these: aspartame is a nasty, nasty thing.
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It truly is. If people did the research, they wouldn't drink much in the way of diet drinks. Aspartame builds up in the system over many years and in old age people who have consumed a lot of it over their lifetime are far more likely to develop cancerous tumors. I completely avoid it.
 
Ar-Pharazon said:
So, what was the deal with that special Pepsi over the summer, that had the "natural" sugar instead of what I assume is glucose or fructose?

Any benefits of this? Or just different taste? I tried 1 or 2 cans, but I drink Cherry Pepsi exclusively, so it was hard to make a determination.
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There were no health benefits. For a period of time, Pepsi Throwback and Mountain Dew Throwback were on sale. Instead of high-fructose corn syrup, these beverages utilized real, actual cane sugar for their flavoring.
 
Not sure if they use the same recipe here as in the US, but to me Coke Zero tastes exactly like normal Coke, .... if you keep normal Coke in the glass for about week before drinking it. So to keep it short: it tastes like :censored:.
 
Ward Fowler said:
thestrangequark said:
I avoid all of these: aspartame is a nasty, nasty thing.
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It truly is. If people did the research, they wouldn't drink much in the way of diet drinks. Aspartame builds up in the system over many years and in old age people who have consumed a lot of it over their lifetime are far more likely to develop cancerous tumors. I completely avoid it.
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It can also dangerously affect mood, causing or exacerbating depression. I'm not so terrified of the substance that I've never sipped a Diet Snapple, but I expose myself to aspartame as little as possible (maybe twice a year I'll have something sweetened with it). I would seriously worry for someone consuming diet sodas every day. I think this is a pretty fair and unsensational article on why aspartame should be avoided.
 
Tribbles said:
I'm a Coca-Cola addict (seriously, several cans a day. Trying to break the habit), and I don't like Coke Zero at all. However, I can handle Cherry Coke Zero. I don't love it and still want some real Coke afterwards, but I can take it (begrudgingly).
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Must be the sugar you're addicted to. There's probably a small amount of real sugar in the cherry flavoring that begrudgingly fools you.
Good luck kicking it.
 
tharpdevenport said:
Is aspartame safe in small doses, like having a liter every once in a while?

Should I jsut stay away from it alltogether?
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I'm going from memory here, but there was a study released a couple of years ago that showed that even moderate daily amounts aren't recommended. Unlike other studies, they didn't overdose mice with aspartame and then say it causes cancer. They tried to estimate what a reasonable daily intake was and then study that. That's what I referenced above that showed build up in the human body over time.

Like thestrangequark I'm not a fanatic about it. I'll have a diet drink occasionally but I avoid it whenever possible. What I found surprising is that aspartame is an ingredient in quite a few things, so it pays to do your homework.
 
tharpdevenport said:
Is aspartame safe in small doses, like having a liter every once in a while?

Should I jsut stay away from it alltogether?
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It is more dangerous for some people than for others. I avoid it as much as possible, but unless you have serious reactions to it I wouldn't be worried about small doses. If my mom eats it she has an instant and drastic increase in her depression -- it's even made her suicidal. I'll eat it on rare occasion. I'd recommend Zevia, though, if you want a sugar and calorie free soda without the aspartame. It is sweetened with stevia.
 
melancholymecha said:
My mom used to use aspartame & now uses Splenda, for everything. Is aspartame the same as Splenda?
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No, they are not the same. Splenda is not yet shown to have any negative side effects, but there are two important things to not regarding this product: 1. The adds always remind us that Splenda is "made from sugar." This does not make it any more natural than aspartame or saccharine. 2. Splenda has not been around long enough to know if there are any long-term effects on health.

Try stevia instead!
 
Checked the Zevia website -- there is no store here carrying it within a 50 mile radius. Not that I would even drive 20.

Their store sells them 24 in a case, for $23.99. That's 0.99 a can. Not even coke, last I checked, has the balls to charge that much for the cans sold at a machine. I think, for the time being, that's a little pricey -- and that's not including the cost of shipping ($11.66)!
 
tharpdevenport said:
Checked the Zevia website -- there is no store here carrying it within a 50 mile radius. Not that I would even drive 20.

Their store sells them 24 in a case, for $23.99. That's 0.99 a can. Not even coke, last I checked, has the balls to charge that much for the cans sold at a machine. I think, for the time being, that's a little pricey -- and that's not including the cost of shipping!
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That is pricey! I don't drink that much soda (a can a week, maybe), so I guess I never really think about the price when I grab a can. No worries, though, more and more stevia-sweetened products are coming out these days, and I've heard tell that Coke is working on a stevia-sweetened line.
 
Sweet news. Boy, I'm glad I started this thread -- all the little interesting things I've learned.


I think I read somewhere that there are negative affects of using sweetners like Splenda. I vagulely recall.
 
CaptainStoner said:
Tribbles said:
I'm a Coca-Cola addict (seriously, several cans a day. Trying to break the habit), and I don't like Coke Zero at all. However, I can handle Cherry Coke Zero. I don't love it and still want some real Coke afterwards, but I can take it (begrudgingly).
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Must be the sugar you're addicted to. There's probably a small amount of real sugar in the cherry flavoring that begrudgingly fools you.
Good luck kicking it.
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You're probably right. I'm drinking sweet iced tea (and Southern tea is pretty darn laden with sugar) to replace it, and that is working better than anything else I've tried. Maybe it's not any better, but I tell myself at least I'm losing the carbonation. And tea is, uh, healthy and stuff. Right?

...right? :shifty:

PS. I'm drinking a delicious Coke right now. Epic fail... :( Dammit I'm trying!
 
Timby said:
Ar-Pharazon said:
So, what was the deal with that special Pepsi over the summer, that had the "natural" sugar instead of what I assume is glucose or fructose?

Any benefits of this? Or just different taste? I tried 1 or 2 cans, but I drink Cherry Pepsi exclusively, so it was hard to make a determination.
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There were no health benefits. For a period of time, Pepsi Throwback and Mountain Dew Throwback were on sale. Instead of high-fructose corn syrup, these beverages utilized real, actual cane sugar for their flavoring.
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You do know they're coming back, right?
 
Tribbles said:
PS. I'm drinking a delicious Coke right now. Epic fail... :( Dammit I'm trying!
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A nice Coke is often the more refreshing beverage in the world.

I almost never drink soda of any kind, and even less now that I'm no longer working at a restaurant. Now if I have Coke, there's usually some Captain Morgan mixed in.
 
thestrangequark said:
melancholymecha said:
My mom used to use aspartame & now uses Splenda, for everything. Is aspartame the same as Splenda?
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No, they are not the same. Splenda is not yet shown to have any negative side effects, but there are two important things to not regarding this product: 1. The adds always remind us that Splenda is "made from sugar." This does not make it any more natural than aspartame or saccharine. 2. Splenda has not been around long enough to know if there are any long-term effects on health.

Try stevia instead!
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my mom is diabetic. I wonder how much stevia costs compared to the Splenda. Theres also another natural sugar substitute called Truvia. I have to check those out for her when I go grocery shopping next time... but if they are too pricey she's not gonna want to switch. :(
 
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