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Clone Wars 2X3 Children of the Force

Mr Light

Mr Light

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So, Part Four of the Cad Bane saga. Yet another solid episode. Aside from a string of episodes later in the first season I've always really enjoyed this show. How wonderful is it to get a new Star Wars fix every week?

I'm glad to see that Bane was easily captured by Anakin this time around. Mundanes shouldn't be able to elude Jedi easily! And he escaped through his own pre-planned cunning, another good mark for credibility.

I also enjoyed the lead-ins to ROTS, like Anakin taking Palpatine's side over the Jedi, Sidious having a secret base on Mustafar, etc.

And hey! One of the writers (there were four) is Drew Z Greenberg, one of the Joss Whedon crew!
 
I blinked at that at first as well, but nowhere in ROTS does Anakin indicate this is his first visit to the planet.
 
It's not that per se. It's just a big galaxy, and here we are using a ROTS location just because. It's not like there's a clone wars battle going on there for some strategic reason. It just happened to be a place the seperatist/sith use as a hideout...twice.
 
MeanJoePhaser said:
It's not that per se. It's just a big galaxy, and here we are using a ROTS location just because. It's not like there's a clone wars battle going on there for some strategic reason. It just happened to be a place the seperatist/sith use as a hideout...twice.
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I have no problem with that.

One of the biggest issues I have with almost every space-fantasy show/movie is that they treat planets like large towns. There's apparently only one small area per planet worth beaming down/landing/visiting and the entire planet's culture and habitat is exactly like what you find in that one small area.

Planets are huge. Ours is fairly small and look how many places there are to hide, let alone how many cultures and habitats there are. Why space fantasy authors can't seem to grasp that, I'll never know.
 
See, though, with that concept...Mustafar is so unhospitable (it seems) to humanoid life that you have to have these high-tech stations. It's not a planet with lots of villages or the vast multi-layer sprawl of Coruscant or even the wastes of Tatooine. Or maybe it is, maybe there's hundreds of such structures on Mustafar, maybe there's f'ing time shares there.
 
They have really gotten a good handle on the visuals of this show. This episode looked amazing, especially the lighting, there were even nice tracking shots. Maybe that's been here before and I hadn't noticed but it really struck me watching this particular episode.

Jedi interrogation doesn't look pleasant! Imagine if Matt Parkman had backup.
 
Yeah, I am guessing the Republic doen't have the ACLU to worry about when torturing prisoners.
 
Yeah I kinda there had been a dark side talk preceding that interrogation. Anakin and Mace I get, but I thought Obi-Wan was the most lily white Force user outside of Yoda. I always saw Obi-Wan as the perfect Jedi example of being completely incorruptible, second only behind Yoda.
 
Mr Light said:
I also enjoyed the lead-ins to ROTS, like Anakin taking Palpatine's side over the Jedi, Sidious having a secret base on Mustafar, etc.
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Not to mention Anakin failing to chastise Ahsoka for wanting to "settle the score" with Bane. Another Jedi would've pointed out that vengeance is not the Jedi way, that it's the road to the Dark Side. But Anakin's already given in to blood vengeance at this point in his life, so he wouldn't see it that way.

Hmm, there's an interesting thought. We've been wondering what happens to Ahsoka by Episode III. What if, because of Anakin's poor example, she ends up going to the Dark Side and becoming an evil Jedi or Sith or whatever? I don't know how that fits with continuity, but it'd be kinda cool...


Mr Light said:
Yeah I kinda there had been a dark side talk preceding that interrogation. Anakin and Mace I get, but I thought Obi-Wan was the most lily white Force user outside of Yoda. I always saw Obi-Wan as the perfect Jedi example of being completely incorruptible, second only behind Yoda.
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On the other hand, Obi-Wan is the first character we ever saw using the Jedi Mind Trick ("These are not the droids you're looking for"), so we know he's not above violating others' mental privacy.
 
Great episode! Season 3 is coming along nicely.

-Nice to see the Jedi actually thrawt a Sidious plan. I'm sure Sidious had his setbacks over the years. I doubt he wanted to lose Maul at Naboo. But in the end, it worked out for him. I wonder if he ever did find those children. I'd like to think not.

-The Anakin/Palpatine relationship got a little play here. Anakin telling the Jedi that they needed to contact Palpatine was totally in-character and he wasn't being a jerk about it. Palpatine's introduction with Ahsoka was intriguing and I wonder if that's a storyline to come.

-I definitely enjoyed the look we got at the Jedi. We learn a little bit about how they go about finding Force-sensitive children for one thing. Seeing Anakin, Obi-Wan, Mace, and Yoda locating the children was really cool. The triple mind trick sequence was very well-done.

-Pissy Yularen ended up biting Anakin in the ass. Though I did love his "No, shut them all down! Hurry!" line.

-Bane still continues to be a strong and engaging villain. His posing as a Jedi I found to be quite creepy.

-Speaking of creepy, Palpatine was totally in Snow White Evil Witch/Wicked Witch of the West mode here. His hologram hovering over the children was distrubing. I guess he had to fill his evil quota for the month.

-The planetary design was excellent, from Mustafar to the Gungan City to Rodia.

I really don't know if it was a good idea to use Mustafar though...it always struck me as a secret base the Jedi knew nothing about. Also, I though Anakin would have expressed more remorse over allowing Bane access to the holocron. Otherwise, another great episode!
 
Yeah, Admiral Yularen is suddenly a lot more unfriendly to Anakin this season. It's like someone remembered, "Hey, this guy was one of the folks on the Death Star in the original movie, so maybe we should play him more as a bad guy."
 
DarthPipes said:
-Nice to see the Jedi actually thrawt a Sidious plan. I'm sure Sidious had his setbacks over the years. I doubt he wanted to lose Maul at Naboo. But in the end, it worked out for him. I wonder if he ever did find those children. I'd like to think not.
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I think he probably did. The Emperor did have force users in his employ during the dark times if memory serves.
 
nx1701g said:
DarthPipes said:
-Nice to see the Jedi actually thrawt a Sidious plan. I'm sure Sidious had his setbacks over the years. I doubt he wanted to lose Maul at Naboo. But in the end, it worked out for him. I wonder if he ever did find those children. I'd like to think not.
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I think he probably did. The Emperor did have force users in his employ during the dark times if memory serves.
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Who knows if those children per se later served the Emperor. But I thought the idea was a nice foreshadowing for the Force sensitives that served the Empire later on, like Mara Jade.
 
^ I would have liked, even though that would make the character pretty old, if Mara Jade had been one of them.
 
You mean the dark side force users who aren't Sith because there are only two sith, so we have to circumvent that by creating dark jedi, Emperor's hands, dark side adepts, etc?

"Only two Sith there can be. Master and apprentice."

"Who are those other people then?"

"Posuers and wannabes they are. Inconsquential to the story they will be."
 
I don't think he wanted to use them as Sith. More like seers...being able to reach out with their minds across the galaxy and serve as spies.
 
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