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News Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey

Missed a good opportunity for authentic bronze age armor. "Batmangammenon" is an interesting aesthetic. The Cyclops cave scene looked much closer to the 90s version with Armand Assante.
 
FPAlpha said:
And if there's one director who's still able to film epic sagas it's Nolan. I'm very curious about that movie, since i love Nolan for his original stories and apart from the few historic movies like Dunkirk and Oppenheimer he always was extremely creatives when he wrote the story from scratch. Let's what he does with such a massive and influential story like the Odyssey.
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I only hope it's told in a straightforward manner without timeline trickery. Even Oppenheimer which should have been a straightforward story included confusing timelines.
 
The Grinch Doctor said:
Oh, quite right. I keep forgetting how it wasn't actually mentioned in Iliad. :o
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True story: Years ago, I edited a historical novel set during the early years of the Trojan War. I submitted a cover concept to the art department, approved the preliminary sketches, and so on.

Imagine my surprise when I received a revised cover mechanical featuring the Trojan Horse, which appeared nowhere in the novel. Seems somebody in the marketing department figured that a Trojan War novel needed to have the famous Horse on the cover and had it added without consulting me. (Grumble, grumble.)

I raised a fuss, pointing out that there was no Trojan Horse in the book, since it was set in the early part of the War, and got it deleted from the cover.
 
Greg Cox said:
True story: Years ago, I edited a historical novel set during the early years of the Trojan War. I submitted a cover concept to the art department, approved the preliminary sketches, and so on.

Imagine my surprise when I received a revised cover mechanical featuring the Trojan Horse, which appeared nowhere in the novel. Seems somebody in the marketing department figured that a Trojan War novel needed to have the famous Horse on the cover and had it added without consulting me. (Grumble, grumble.)

I raised a fuss, pointing out that there was no Trojan Horse in the book, since it was set in the early part of the War, and got it deleted from the cover.
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I hate to say it but I'm not surprised. I'm just glad you were able to get the cover changed.
 
The Grinch Doctor said:
I hate to say it but I'm not surprised. I'm just glad you were able to get the cover changed.
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Then again, who knows? Maybe putting the Horse on the cover would have boosted sales? :)


Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to this movie. Loved the story ever since I first watched the old 1950s version with Kirk Douglas.

Among other things, it has, bar none, the best dog scene in all of Western literature, which I certainly hope will be in Nolan's movie.

Serious question: do we need to worry about spoilers when it comes to the basic plot of a two-thousand-plus year-old Greek epic?
 
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theenglish said:
I should hope not. It is basically a bunch of short stories with an overarching narrative and all of those stories have been reworked various times in different art forms.
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That's my take on it, too. I mean, I'm as annoyed by unnecessary spoilers as the next person, but when it comes to venerable classics like The Odyssey, Romeo and Juliet, or King Kong . . . well, that's just basic cultural literacy.

Spoiler: the giant ape falls off the Empire State Building. :)
 
Greg Cox said:
True story: Years ago, I edited a historical novel set during the early years of the Trojan War. I submitted a cover concept to the art department, approved the preliminary sketches, and so on.

Imagine my surprise when I received a revised cover mechanical featuring the Trojan Horse, which appeared nowhere in the novel. Seems somebody in the marketing department figured that a Trojan War novel needed to have the famous Horse on the cover and had it added without consulting me. (Grumble, grumble.)

I raised a fuss, pointing out that there was no Trojan Horse in the book, since it was set in the early part of the War, and got it deleted from the cover.
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Greg Cox said:
That's my take on it, too. I mean, I'm as annoyed by unnecessary spoilers as the next person, but when it comes to venerable classics like The Odyssey, Romeo and Juliet, or King Kong . . . well, that's just basic cultural literacy.

Spoiler: the giant ape falls off the Empire State Building. :)
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On the other hand, everything has to be brand new for somebody at some point. The movie will absolutely be the first time that many people have encountered this material.
 
theenglish said:
I agree with all that. Shakespeare plays are just as relevant today, sometimes with a little updating that I'm sure the Bard would not have objected to since all but two of his own plays were contemporary updates of older stories. Not much has changed in many ways. Comedies often still end in marriages and tragedies/dramas often end in death.
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Yeah, just look at all of the different modern versions of the plays, like the Patrick Stewart/David Tennant Hamlet, or the Leonardo DiCaprio/Claire Danes Romeo + Juliet, have come out. Just today I saw a trailer for a new Hamlet with Riz Amed, Timothy Spall, and Morfydd Clark where Hamlet's family are Indians in modern day London.
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Greg Cox said:
Serious question: do we need to worry about spoilers when it comes to the basic plot of a two-thousand-plus year-old Greek epic?
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I'd say discussing the story in general is OK, but I'd code anything unique to the movie.
I didn't realize the Odyssey was 24 books until I saw an article mention it the other day. Pretty much all of the adaptations and overviews I'd seen only really talked about Circe, the Sirens, and the Cyclops, so I had assumed that was pretty much the whole story, with maybe one or two other stops on the journey.
 
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Greg Cox said:
True story: Years ago, I edited a historical novel set during the early years of the Trojan War. I submitted a cover concept to the art department, approved the preliminary sketches, and so on.

Imagine my surprise when I received a revised cover mechanical featuring the Trojan Horse, which appeared nowhere in the novel. Seems somebody in the marketing department figured that a Trojan War novel needed to have the famous Horse on the cover and had it added without consulting me. (Grumble, grumble.)

I raised a fuss, pointing out that there was no Trojan Horse in the book, since it was set in the early part of the War, and got it deleted from the cover.
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Of course, they did the same thing with the Brad Pitt Iliad movie.
 
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