Characters we met in alternate futures

[WarpTenLizard]

I'm looking for characters who we met in alternate futures, futures that ultimately wound up getting erased....and those characters along with them.

I already have:

• Yedrin Dax and the Gaia Colony, from "Deep Space Nine" ("Children of Time").
• Linnis Paris and Andrew Kim, from the "Voyager" episode "Before & After"
• Lorian, Karyn Archer, etc. from the "Enterprise" episode "E-Squared."

...and I've rejected:

• Lursa's son: Someone suggested him when I asked about this a few years back. But doing the math, this kid would already have been born by the time Lursa died in "Generations."
• Thelin, from "Yesteryear" (The Animated Series). He looks about 40, and the timelines only diverged 30-something years, in that episode. So he still exists, regardless.

Unsure:

• Sabrina Wildman (VOY "Endgame")
• Melanie (DS9 "The Visitor")
• Geordie and Leah's four kids (TNG "All Good Things")

These characters, we don't know if they were erased, or if they still managed to be born in the new timelines. (Remember that in "Star Trek," the same people somehow manage to be born in multiple universes.)

I'm trying to get characters from each of the "Star Trek" series. As I already have "Voyager," "DS9" and "Enterprise" covered, I'm now looking for characters from the Original Series, The Animated Series, TNG, the Abrams movies, Discovery, etc.

Thanks for any input.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

From "All Good Things" there was Lieutenant Gaines (the E-D's tactical officer), Ensign Chilton (the Pasteur's conn/ops officer) and Jessel (Data's housekeeper). Given it's 25 years in the future, Gaines would likely be a toddler in the prime timeline, Chilton probably wasn't born yet, and Jessel would be in her mid-late 40s.

Is that kinda what you're meaning?

 

[Farscape One]

Given STAR TREK BEYOND, it's quite possible Balthazar Edison, as Krall, is alive on Altimad in the Prime timeline. Same with his two crew.

The original series did do time travel once in a while, but I don't think there are any examples that would fit the bill. They went too far backward in time in "TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY", "THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER", and "ASSIGNMENT: EARTH" for anyone we meet to have survived. In "THE NAKED TIME", they only went back 3 days, so not far enough to make difference... though it makes you wonder if Joe Tormolen came back to life. And everyone on Sarpeidon in "ALL OUR YESTERDAYS" will be dead regardless of what time period they went back to.

I haven't watched The Animated Series in a while, so I don't remember if any apply here.

Plus the TNG ones mentioned above. I might be able to come up with more.

 

[Tim Thomason]

There's no time travel in Picard, Short Treks, or Lower Decks, so those guys are out.

 

[Farscape One]

So far...

 

[Orphalesion]

Yeah I would be very surprised if we don't see time travel in some future episode/season on Lower Decks.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Yeah I would be very surprised if we don't see time travel in some future episode/season on Lower Decks.

Time travel has been alluded to (the Vancouver's trip to 1920s Chicago, the assassination of the guy worse than Hitler). It is possible, but not certain, that the Season Finale will be a time travel episode. It's really McMahan's last chance this season for a time travel adventure, especially since he used time travel so often in his Twitter episodes and the Warped book.

 

[Farscape One]

Hell, time travel is rarely NOT done in a scifi series. Some shows that did it once or more...

BABYLON 5
DOCTOR WHO (obvious example)
EUREKA
FARSCAPE
FIRST WAVE
HERCULES THE LEGENDARY JOURNEYS
QUANTUM LEAP (another obvious one)
RED DWARF
seaQuest DSV and 2032
SEVEN DAYS (the premise of the entire show is time travel)
SLIDERS
STARGATE SG-1(and ATLANTIS and SGU)
SUPERNATURAL
THE TIME TUNNEL (same as SEVEN DAYS)
TORCHWOOD
THE TWILIGHT ZONE (every version, I believe)
WAREHOUSE 13
WEIRD SCIENCE
THE X-FILES


I can go on...

 

[amp]

We don't actually meet them, but in "Twilight" there's a mention of children in classrooms on deck D. Presumably some of them were born after the Xindi attack and erased after Archer's parasites were eradicated.

ETA: There are also Worf and Deanna's kids from "Parallels".

 

[Oddish]

I doubt Melanie existed in the main timeline. Sisko's influence in the galaxy between Seasons 4 and 7 created so many changes, it's unlikely that the same series of events that led to the girl's conception would have unfolded. And that's assuming that Sisko doesn't return at some juncture.

 

[Orphalesion]

ETA: There are also Worf and Deanna's kids from "Parallels".

They weren't erased. They just exist in other quantum realities (I think we were shown at least 2 realities in which Worf and Deanna had kids)

 

[Oddish]

Two where they were married, one where they had kids. And since Worf exited that parallel, I think we have to say that for our purposes it didn't happen. Or else that the B&A timeline (where Tom and Harry were in-laws) did.

 

[Orphalesion]

Two where they were married, one where they had kids. And since Worf exited that parallel, I think we have to say that for our purposes it didn't happen. Or else that the B&A timeline (where Tom and Harry were in-laws) did.

But all the quantum realities are equally valid and "real" the various Worfs just hopped between them. The timeline(s) where Worfs was married to Troi were created long before the Worfs went quantum hopping.

Even during the episode the idea was to send the various Enterprises back into their proper realities and married Deanna expressed doubts/anxiety about getting "her" Worf back, not about getting erased, like the people on that planet in DS9.

The B&A future is something else entirely since there a person was sent back in time. Though I also find it possible that the B&A future continues to exist in a parallel quantum timeline.

 

[The Wormhole]

We don't actually meet them, but in "Twilight" there's a mention of children in classrooms on deck D. Presumably some of them were born after the Xindi attack and erased after Archer's parasites were eradicated.

Actually, since that scene took place in something like the year or two after the destruction of Earth that the NX-01 and its rag-tag fleet spend travelling to Ceti Alpha V, if those kids were school-aged, they were likely born before the Xindi attack.

 

[amp]

They weren't erased. They just exist in other quantum realities (I think we were shown at least 2 realities in which Worf and Deanna had kids)

Did I confuse time travel and alternate quantum realities again? Dammit, screwing up that question on the entrance exam is what kept me out of Starfleet Academy.

 

[ThankQ]

What about timelines that weren't really timelines? Anyone in "Future Imperfect"?

 

[Oddish]

I think they were imaginary, not alternative. Hence Riker/Minuet.

 

[Lord Garth]

Gabrielle Burnham possibly. She's from a future where there's no life in the galaxy. She's seen several futures unfold.

 

[WarpTenLizard]

What about timelines that weren't really timelines? Anyone in "Future Imperfect"?

Not really what I'm looking for. Though that was an interesting episode, albeit with a moronic copout ending.

 

[WarpTenLizard]

I doubt Melanie existed in the main timeline. Sisko's influence in the galaxy between Seasons 4 and 7 created so many changes, it's unlikely that the same series of events that led to the girl's conception would have unfolded. And that's assuming that Sisko doesn't return at some juncture.

I'd agree, except for the fact that somehow 99% of the same individuals manage to be born in the Mirror Universe, for multiple generations!

....though, that rule may only apply to main characters, and not one-time talking plot devices like Melanie....