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That's not entirely accurate. Roddenberry objected to the script because he felt lawyers would be obsolete in his enlightened 24th Century.

Such a weird notion, as if there would never be a reason to review laws, to make new laws and discard old ones, as if there would never be a situation in which law would have to be interpreted because just laws can't be rigid and black and white. As if a society that constantly incorporates new, widely different beings and societies into it's fold wouldn't have to actively and constantly work on its laws to stay fair.

This is why "Gene's vision" is such a weaksauce defense. In this case his vision was build on undercooked worldbuilding, because he apparently thought lawyer=defense lawyer=criminals, and didn't even think about all the other things lawyers might concern themselves with.

It's also contradictory to previous stuff like The Ensigns of Command where it's stated that the treaty with the Sheliak required the work of 372 legal experts of the Federation. That's lawyers, isn't it? Or are we to understand that these were all layman law enthusiasts?
 
I think he didn't want lawyers for no other reason than that people tend to look down at lawyers, unless of course they need one. I think what he was going for was a more benign justice system especially since humans were so perfect they wouldn't be doing crimes anyway thus no need for lawyers in world where everyone follows the rules.


Jason
 
Melinda Snodgrass was one of TNG's unsung heroes. One contribution to TNG was the regular poker games between the crew, which continued to very last scene of All Good Things.

She left TNG because she felt Rodenberry took the heart and soul out of her scripts.
 
Melinda Snodgrass was one of TNG's unsung heroes. One contributions to TNG was the regular poker games between the crew, which continued to very last scene of All Good Things.

She left TNG because she felt Rodenberry took the heart and soul out of her scripts.
Oh, so she lacked (Gene's) vision?
 
I only know him because I'm doing a rewatch of DS9 and reading up on the episodes on memory alpha..

But for a second there, I thought Michael M. was a Trekkie...
 
Yep that is what I meant to say. Guess I should be lucky I didn't type Roger Moore.


Jason
I could've seen Roger Moore in star trek. He had enough time on his hands to do a cameo on Cannonball Run, he could have shown up on TMP as captain of the USS Moonraker :)

Roger Moore did have a connection to Doctor Who, however. One could say he was even paid for production work. 2 shillings, sixpence when he gave a prop guy on the set of Revenge of the Cyberman an old mirror prop he somehow still had from Live and Let Die, that ended up being used at a secret transmitter in the plot:

"I'd popped into the Beeb for a cup of tea and spotted a notice about an upcoming "Doctor Who", so I thought the darlings would be so cash-strapped they'd need anything they could get their hands on. It wasn't MGM, after all. But I didn't expect to walk out with two and six!"

 
I think he didn't want lawyers for no other reason than that people tend to look down at lawyers, unless of course they need one. I think what he was going for was a more benign justice system especially since humans were so perfect they wouldn't be doing crimes anyway thus no need for lawyers in world where everyone follows the rules.


Jason
Off topic, but america went through a legal craze especially in the 90s with la law, law and order, the practice, and turning john grisham into a bestselling writer and adapting his works. Now that has died down and the money is in sci fi stuff like marvel and here in picard.

It must have been mass hysteria or something, i find legal stuff dull and don't want it in my entertainment. But we do need lawyers at least existing and mentioned in trek
 
I've yet to hear an anecdote about the writing of TNG involving Gene in which he was not utterly, if not catastrophically, wrong.

The majority consensus is negative but Michael Piller has praised Gene for his suggestions for The Bonding and Deja Q. Apparently Gene suggested that Q lose his powers for real while the original script didn't.
 
Off topic, but america went through a legal craze especially in the 90s with la law, law and order, the practice, and turning john grisham into a bestselling writer and adapting his works. Now that has died down and the money is in sci fi stuff like marvel and here in picard.

It must have been mass hysteria or something, i find legal stuff dull and don't want it in my entertainment. But we do need lawyers at least existing and mentioned in trek
I want way more legal stuff. If someone gave me Star Trek: JAG I would love it.
 
I want way more legal stuff. If someone gave me Star Trek: JAG I would love it.

Wait, is this where we present our legal drama wishes for Star Trek?

I want a Star Trek equivalent to Kingdom (a British show starring Stephen Fry as small town lawyer Peter Kingdom), and it's just a show about a lawyer on some small outpost that's not the linchpin of intergalactic tension like DS9, and all they do is settle disputes between trade partners, mitigate or resolve complaints over planning issues in the nearest colony, give legal consultation on contracts, and help people from non-Federation worlds with the legal paper work required to become citizens. And that's as exciting as it gets on that front. The real drama is the interpersonal one on a small, remote outpost with a tiny contingent of Starfleet personnel and lot of transient aliens just passing through.
 
Wait, is this where we present our legal drama wishes for Star Trek?

I want a Star Trek equivalent to Kingdom (a British show starring Stephen Fry as small town lawyer Peter Kingdom), and it's just a show about a lawyer on some small outpost that's not the linchpin of intergalactic tension like DS9, and all they do is settle disputes between trade partners, mitigate or resolve complaints over planning issues in the nearest colony, give legal consultation on contracts, and help people from non-Federation worlds with the legal paper work required to become citizens. And that's as exciting as it gets on that front. The real drama is the interpersonal one on a small, remote outpost with a tiny contingent of Starfleet personnel and lot of transient aliens just passing through.
I could get behind this.
 
I've yet to hear an anecdote about the writing of TNG involving Gene in which he was not utterly, if not catastrophically, wrong.

He saved the "Conspiracy" episode, which is really interesting. When I saw that episode I thought they must have made it when Gene was out of town and he would eventually hold a press conference and declare it non-canon. But the reverse was true. The script by writer Tracy Torme was rejected by Hurley for not being Star Trek. And I think it was a valid interpretation since Gene had repeatedly said he didn't like bad ugly aliens with no redeeming qualities. Torme then went over the head of Hurley and showed his script to Gene. Gene liked it and told Hurley and Berman to make the episode.
 
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