CGI Data
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If I recall my Trekdom, Data had the ability to age, if he wanted to.
In one episode a passing reference was made to an aging program. The one with Mrs. Soong. It sounded farcical to me. I think the writers regretted that dialogue.
It stands to reason though given his artificial nature he'd be able to simply reconfigure his physical structure to approximate aging if he so desired.
It stands to reason though given his artificial nature he'd be able to simply reconfigure his physical structure to approximate aging if he so desired.
I agree we're eventually going to get to the point where you can have perfectly realistic looking people, completely CGI generated.
When that happens I suspect the effect on cinema is that when you have all emotional reactions squarely under control by one person or one team, you lose the chemistry you have now of different actors having different interpretations of the scene and playing off each other. That's George Lucas's filmmaker utopia there and I think a lot of filmmakers will love it because they don't realize a lot of the intangibles that make performances great are the little things they aren't quite in control of.
Here's the dialogue, from Inheritance:
I don't see there's anything to regret there. One might ask if an aging simulator is all that important a thing to include in your robots. But we've already been given androids designed to for some reason blink and breathe. What's the step too far in supposing that over the decades they'd move a little slower, their hair would turn grey, and their skin would sag off their interiors?
I'm so glad of so many differing opinions.
That is why "Star Wars" has always been about visual effect rather than storytelling, whereas "Star Trek" focused more on storytelling rather than visual effects. The visual effects were a tool to help tell the story unlike "Star Wars." Look at The Original Series in the '60s. They relied heavily on story than visual effects. That is why people were bored with "Star Trek" than with "Star Wars". They just wanted bang, bang, bang and pew, pew, pew. The "Star Wars" fans that is.
Am I wrong?
That is why "Star Wars" has always been about visual effect rather than storytelling, whereas "Star Trek" focused more on storytelling rather than visual effects. The visual effects were a tool to help tell the story unlike "Star Wars." Look at The Original Series in the '60s. They relied heavily on story than visual effects. That is why people were bored with "Star Trek" than with "Star Wars". They just wanted bang, bang, bang and pew, pew, pew. The "Star Wars" fans that is.
Am I wrong?
It's absurd. Why would you bother if your life span is indefinite? Moreover if you are daft enough to actually do that why not just simply alter one's construction? You don't need an "aging program" to do that. Breathing is in a different category as that assists in on-site interactions.
If the animation is done properly unlike the TOS animated series, then yes I too am up for an animated series. Gives more freedom for sets, planets, storytelling, etc.
I thought they had a missed opportunity in First Contact. They could've had a more complete skin graft over Data's face and body, then stripped it all away when he was immersed in the coolant. It would have been interesting to see a Soong android exposed in that fashion, like the original 1984 Terminator after the flesh was burned off. Hopefully, with more money and better CGI, it would have been more detailed and interesting than when we saw Lal without her skin. After that point, they could have gone as far as recasting the Data character altogether because he could have chosen any appearance he wanted (like Lal did.)
Star Trek never had better money or CGI. Only when the rebooted movies came around that Paramount gave more budget to a crap story to a crap director.
As far as the money, I agree. First Contact got a budget that was $10 million more than Generations, so a completely skinless Data could've looked pretty decent (after all, James Cameron was able to pull off a fairly good robot endoskeleton back in 1984 with only $6.4 million.)
As far as the new Trek flicks are concerned, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that. I enjoyed the 2009 Trek.
Exactly. Even "The Undiscovered Country" was treated unfairly thanks to "The Final Frontier's" poor box-office returns. Paramount should have allowed more sets for the final film of the original cast, instead of redressing "The Next Generation" sets.
I don't mind it if people like the new reboot movies. I frankly don't. I find them non-canon in my mind.
I don't like reboot movies or series either.Exactly. Even "The Undiscovered Country" was treated unfairly thanks to "The Final Frontier's" poor box-office returns. Paramount should have allowed more sets for the final film of the original cast, instead of redressing "The Next Generation" sets.
I don't mind it if people like the new reboot movies. I frankly don't. I find them non-canon in my mind.
