CBS Trek's DEFENDERS?

[F. King Daniel]

CBS plan to make All-Access the Star Trek channel, with Trek content all year around. Along with Discovery season 2 we have Destiny (the rumoured name for The Picard Show), a Starfleet Academy series, an animated series and others in various stages of development.

How long until they do a gratuitous Marvel Netflix-style crossover event? Brent Spiner's admittedly dreadful-sounding 2005 talk of a "Justice League of Trek" may actually come to fruition in some vague form. Picard meets Michael Burnham. Pike mentors more space cadets during a crisis. Old Picard meets Young Spock. Whoever they can get from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT show up. Some nuAnimated Series characters or baddies get a live-action treatment. We might even find out who Future Guy was.

Do you think they'll do it?

 

[BillJ]

Do you think they'll do it?

It depends. I think while CBS has had a pretty solid business plan thus far, I think they could kill the whole thing if they overload on nostalgia. Rogue One made a billion dollars at the box office, then Solo followed up with a theatrical face-plant.

 

[dahj]

We're already getting a crossover event this season between Discovery and Pike's Enterprise

 

[Romulan_spy]

About 20 or even 10 years ago, I definitely wanted to see a big "Justice League" team up movie for Trek. But now I think it is too late. The actors are just too old to make it work. Shatner is 87. Patrick Stewart is 78. Kate Mulgrew is 63. Avery Brooks is 69. So you can't do it with the big legends like Kirk, Picard or Janeway. You could do it of course with the new characters like nuKirk (PIne), nuSpock (Quinto), and Burnham but I am not sure that would carry the same weight. I mean, would fans really get excited if Burnham had an adventure with Pine's Kirk? I doubt it. I know for me, as a TNG fan, I would have loved to see Picard and Sisko and Janeway have an epic adventure together.

 

[Saul]

How long until they do a gratuitous Marvel Netflix-style crossover event?

Never really saw what the problem was with that idea. Avengers can do it. Justice League did it. Why not Trek? Would have loved to have seen it earlier though.

Do you think they'll do it?

Here's hoping.

 

[XCV330]

There's 170 year of Soong family history we dont know about. Spiner could come back certainly, but in terms of hero-stacking. no, its a terrible idea. it almost certainly won't work,some JLA version of Star Trek.

 

[Lord Garth]

I'd rather have Star Trek's version of The A-Team.

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[Kor]

CBS plan to make All-Access the Star Trek channel, with Trek content all year around. Along with Discovery season 2 we have Destiny (the rumoured name for The Picard Show), a Starfleet Academy series, an animated series and others in various stages of development.

How long until they do a gratuitous Marvel Netflix-style crossover event? Brent Spiner's admittedly dreadful-sounding 2005 talk of a "Justice League of Trek" may actually come to fruition in some vague form. Picard meets Michael Burnham. Pike mentors more space cadets during a crisis. Old Picard meets Young Spock. Whoever they can get from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT show up. Some nuAnimated Series characters or baddies get a live-action treatment. We might even find out who Future Guy was.

Do you think they'll do it?

For this to make any business sense, each of the new Trek series will need to have a very strong viewer base.

Otherwise the whole thing will just fall flat, like that Kenny Rogers made-for-TV installment of "The Gambler" that had appearances from a bunch of historical and fictional figures from the Old West.

Kor

 

[jaime]

WWE network fills a whole streaming service (for 9.99 a month!) with viewers across the planet.
Trek can do it easily, if it really tries....there’s what...13 movies? 5 TV séries? One animated?
Pal up with Roddenberry Estate and maybe get Andromeda Earth: Final Conflict etc as occasional novelty pieces with tenuous Trek links. Buy up a couple of now finished Fan Films (STC certainly.) Run various documentaries off the DVD extras etc. Directors cuts for the films and episodes that have them...movie cuts of two parters as released back in the day.
New things shot at conventions, After Trek for DSC and maybe something similar done for the older shows and movies...the Shatner documentaries, the new Ds9 one...anniversary programming for each show and the overall franchise, a la the 30 year special....poach Face Off from SyFy and make it more Trek focused...seriously, its very very easy to spread all that content out, make new content cheaply, and fill a channel. Heck, grab some modelmakers, put a three hour ‘making models’ segment up each month...
Yes, most of us already have xyz on disc or tape, but it’s probably only 1 percent of us who have access to everything they could use that exists already. Get production spooled up so they have an extra three to six hours of content each month, three of which would be new shows, and they are laughing. A lot of people are moving away from Disc, and onto streaming (hence this whole shebang in some ways) so I think it’s possible.
Plus...the thought of the various fan shows getting their fifteen minutes of CBS endorsed fame, while Axanar just exists as vapour is a chucklesome thought.
It could very easily work tbh, and it’s one of those things that just snowballs. More content means more regulars, which means mor content, which means more money to make more. They have a core to the ball.

 

[Skulkin' Vulcan]

It depends. I think while CBS has had a pretty solid business plan thus far, I think they could kill the whole thing if they overload on nostalgia. Rogue One made a billion dollars at the box office, then Solo followed up with a theatrical face-plant.

Their solid business plan won't matter when Shari Redstone merges CBS and Viacom and then sells them off to some tech co like Apple or Amazon, which hugely ambitious streaming plans. Consumer behavior is pushing towards just a few behemoth services surviving, and Star Trek is a great brand for one of those services. CBS isn't going to go the distance, but Star Trek will be around, even if it's under the Apple brand. And whoever gets it will exploit it to the max for certain. There won't be a Star Trek streaming service, but there could very well be a Star Trek row on your streaming service with the old and new series piling up and more than you can watch.

I never believe the "burnout" theories of blockbuster brands. We should all be beyond burnt out on Marvel, yet Disney keeps shoving more Marvel movies at us and making sheetloads of money. People don't get burned out on the good stuff.

 

[Nerys Myk]

How long until they do a gratuitous Marvel Netflix-style crossover event?

They obviously planned the "Defenders" show happening from the beginning, with the various characters popping up on each others shows from the start. Defenders wasn't a "crossover event", but it's own series and the next step in Marvel's plan for their Netflix properties.
I doubt current Trek has the forethought or planning Marvel did.

 

[Mudd]

People aren't that interested.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

There's 170 year of Soong family history we dont know about.

Like a daughter from a previous relationship on Noonian's prior to Julianna?

 

[Tenacity]

Picard meets Michael Burnham

Wouldn't she be like 150?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Wouldn't she be like 150?

A temporal anomaly-of-the-week will take care of that

 

[Tenacity]

ahhh of course, PICARD will be sent back in time in the first episode of the picard show to the time period of discovery's third season.

dave bowman: it's all so clear to me now.

 

[rahullak]

Don't think because it worked for Marvel that it will work with Trek. Trek's not suited for that kind of crossover event for the big or small screens. Works in the novels, but not on screens I think.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

All we need is for Disney to buy Trek, then we can include Worf and Picard in the Avengers. Maybe the Kree can be wiped out and replaced by the Founders?

 

[USS Triumphant]

It depends. I think while CBS has had a pretty solid business plan thus far, I think they could kill the whole thing if they overload on nostalgia. Rogue One made a billion dollars at the box office, then Solo followed up with a theatrical face-plant.

I'm still of the opinion that Solo face-planted because of Episode VIII. Nothing to do with Rogue One, which was awesome, or Solo itself, which was at least above average.

 

[BillJ]

I'm still of the opinion that Solo face-planted because of Episode VIII. Nothing to do with Rogue One, which was awesome, or Solo itself, which was at least above average.

I don't think Episode VIII had anything to do with it. There was just no compelling story reason to go see Solo, people figured that out after flooding to Rogue One. Nice movies, but neither grew the Star Wars story.

If Disney thought this was wholly or even in part due to Episode VIII, they wouldn't have cancelled the side movies.