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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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In the Caine Mutiny, Captaeris in Queeg was mean, stupid and thorougly incompetent. What makes him a compelling character is the gradual revelation is that he is not evil or insane, but an ordinary man pushed by exigencies of war far beyond his capabilities. Garth is certainly not incompetent, but the flaws in his character that he could have compensated for under normal circumstances suddenly had free reign, through whatever circumstances a writer wanted to come up with. It's sort of like when someone has a stroke or falls victim to dementia that takes away the filters that moderate their behaviors. Painting a picture of a perfect hero makes it hard to believe that such a person could suddenly become a psychopath. Much more plausible would be the idea that those flaws which would hardly warrant a footnote in a personnel/psychological file would come to the front and take over.Perhaps the vehicle for this would be a court of inquiry into Garth's crew revolting over his illegal order.
 
I don't really see why it matters if it's a one off or not, you can still have good characterizations in a one off. I'm not an expert writer or anything, but there are still ways to ways to give decent characters in a single short film.
It only matters in degrees – like it's probably worse not to do it when you have more time, like in a series or string of movies, but more excusable you don't when time is tight, or character development is not that important to the shorter story.

Was it specifically stated somewhere that he had brain damage? I double-checked Memory Alpha and all it said is he was "maimed" and I don't remember the episode ever getting specific about what exactly happened to him.
No, they didn't exactly say what the accident did to him, but later they say this:

CORY: How long before it takes effect, Doctor McCoy?
MCCOY: Reversal of arterial and brain damage should begin almost immediately.

It's not really a stretch since damage to a leg, for example, probably wouldn't cause so drastic a change, and they are talking about insanity. But it might not have been the accident that damaged the brain, but something about the shape changing process that poisoned the mind. We just don't know for sure.

Either way, just because he was a great Captain doesn't mean he had to be perfect and flawless. There are plenty of major, heroic historical figures that did great things, but still also had some dark, nasty stuff going on at the same time.
I agree. I'm not sure how imperfect one must be, or how well flaws must be demonstrated before one could escape the criticism of Gary Stuism, though, at a time when canon suggests he's the very model or prototype for those other 1 in a million guys.

I don't see why a fan film would be needed when the shows and movies already showed us what he did.
"Need" is not a word I'd use at all for fan films or Trek boards or many other things we do for fun – this isn't about a need so much as about a desire by one or more to make something, and/or one or more to watch it.

You don't need to spend a ton of time on it, you just need it to be there. .
You don't need big meaningful change for there to be decent characterization.
True. Well, not need it to be there so much as want it, but will it be enough, or even acknowledged as existing, if the flaws aren't numerous enough or big enough or altered enough? I'd have to reread that Axanar script to see, and it really wasn't a good read the first time so I'm not inclined to do that, but is somebody saying there is no way anything Garth did in it could be considered or interpreted as a flaw, even a minor one?

It might not make something a bad story, but it definitely doesn't help.
I'm not convinced it really hurts that much, either, unless, like I said, it's for longer treatments when you have so much room and time, it's almost inexcusable not to take some of that and show growth and change.

Patton, of course, was all those things, but they took 170 minutes to tell that one in the 1970 film.
 
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From the few interactions I had with LFIM (before the s*it hit the fan and I found out what kind of person he really was), the basic concept sounded interesting enough. Is it a story that needs to be told though? IMO, no. It and the material it's sourced from is so obscure, it's better left to the realm of fandom/TrekLit etc.

If you are going to pull something from obscurity and blow it up into a full scale project, learn what you need to learn, surround yourself with people who know what they're doing (and possibly know more than you do) and for crying out loud - listen to any and all advice they give you. IMO, completely sidelining Christian Gossett and the team he helped assemble was a huge mistake (possible evidence that LFIM's ultimate goal wasn't to make a movie, but con/defraud fans.....??)

Get serious, be thoughtful and really treat your project with the care and attention it deserves, otherwise leave it all to the fans/authors/bloggers etc. No one's going to care about, let alone take seriously, some obscure piece of minutiae if you treat it like just another piece of fanwank
 
I smell Kickstarter!

Wait, those are my buns burning. I forgot to turn the oven off.

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I really hope for his sake, he knew nothing about Alec or Axanar before he got involved.
 
Here we go again - and you folks thought we wouldn't be able to hit 1701 pages!

from the interview (emphasis added):

PAUL: And that’s such a pity, and it was a mistake by CBS, in my opinion. When we went up to OWC Studios to attend this open house the other day—I told Alec I’d be happy to go over for a bit and went with my son—the people who stood around in there and looked around and said, “I’m gonna volunteer to help make this film…” they love their community and they love Star Trek. That’s where I think the mistake was for CBS. I think suing those very people is sad. You should let them make their project.

I think the difficult line perhaps that Alec had to face was whether or not CBS considered that that they were going off with the franchise and making money from it without permission. And obviously, that seemed to be the argument between the two of them.

But as I understand it quite clearly, there’s a settlement about how the project can move forward. That settlement includes the stuff that Alec is now working on. So…where’s the problem? There is no problem.

This was after he exchanged bon mots with the columnist about how the "detractors" are "shouting" and this also doesn't matter because "it doesn't have anything to do with him".

So, to this new co-author and developer of film business in Georgia, you may wish to consider in light of "where's the problem":

1. An opinion: this project is not going to go forward any differently than it has in the past. When the next large scale assault on property rights, the next failed diverting of fan money into a for-profit venture on the order of a million bucks, the next social media posts playing with the idea of shooting Axanar critics appear, when the next wholesale verbal abuse of every single donor who dares even ask status online emanates from Axanar, it WILL have something to do with you.

2. The lawsuit was not about "CBS not letting fans make their film". It wasn't just Axanar "facing the studios' opinion that they might be running off with the franchise". It WAS Axanar running of with their franchise. The cash of their franchise, and the licensing authority they have over their franchise. A Federal appeals court judge made Trek jokes ridiculing the actions of Axanar in his evaluation of their court filings. Does this tell you anything? And Axanar didn't "relocate" to Georgia from sort of successful run in Hollywood, it had to find some place to go when its project and unlicensed funding scheme crashed and burned.

3. You say you are a Trek fan from long back. You may not yet want to make this effort, but you will find out true colors about what sort of fan attitudes exist in Axanar from the record. Its not your warm fuzzy. Its a long history of ridicule on the electronic record of Trek that wasn't a product of the ever-name-changing "studio" producing Axanar, the one and only source of "authentic" Trek remaining on Earth. This even includes during a podcast ridiculing Nichelle Nichols personally for having an Afro in the movies. The bottom line is that any enthusiasm you perceive at Axanar for Trek is overshadowed by the actual behavior towards Trek people in the industry and towards donors.

Good luck with your reputation if these personality qualities of Axanar blossom in a new iteration. Hope you avoid also earning a sobriquet from Wesley.

4. You say you are a professional and you have dealt with all sorts of "con" talk, and concerns you have heard are no more than that. Have you talked to the long list of professionals who were once like you but since have fled ducking to try to distance themselves from Axanar? You really think your professionalism will make it different this time? Look at what they have said on the record. Check out for example the Trek Zone podcasts.

5. If these points constitute "screaming", fine. Good luck. You are going to need it. The sincere fan project and aspirations you have been sold might be nice in the abstract, but the public record shows there's an entire ring highway of other attitudes and business methods around it that defeat all that. Don't be fooled by the enthusiasm of freshly minted volunteers. Look at the business record, as the business developer you are. That conduct and the treatment of its 'customers' (donors), speaks for itself. Does the state of Georgia want to fund a project that applied over a million bucks from crowdsourcing on top of an unlicensed IP, to build a private studio to compete with the IP holder in their genre and industry? Really? Will your colleagues who are not Trek fans see it so rosy as to miss this?

6. Did you know there's no such thing as a Vulcan as intellectual property, because other characters in literature and myth have pointed ears? Axanar does. It said so in court while attempting to build a case that around a million bucks of fan money spent on a for profit generic SF studio buildout is "fair use" of Trek IP.
 
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