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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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captainkirk said:
I still can't believe anyone can manage to spend tens of thousands of dollars on restaurant meals. But then I suppose when it's someone else's money he has no problem with ordering all the most expensive things on the menu.
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All that sushi adds up quickly when the donors are footing the bill.
 
keel said:
NONE of the fan-based production groups make money off the fans from their films. The films are free to view by the public. They are funded by donations from individuals, businesses and fans of all types and those who work on the films do so of their own free will and time. Back in the '70's, before fan-based films, before Paramount Trek films, fans were producing all kinds of written material, artistic material, visual material, audio material and Paramount cracked down on NONE of it, even tho a large percentage of the material was Kirk/Spock gay porn. Paramount cracked down on fan-based materials only when something became financially successful, such as my 'Klingon Covert Operations Manual' around 1990. I also produced the first Klingon text-font in 1984 and if I had charged for it, I've no doubt Paramount would have stopped that as well, since over 350,000 copies have been downloaded last I checked (10 years ago). It was ONLY with the Axanar film production that Paramount began cracking down on films, simply because they were using real actors, real directors, producers, construction crew, film crew, etc..... The TRUE fan-based Trek films have been left completely alone other than via Paramount's 'rules' dictate, which has devastated any ability by anyone to produce a film. A 15-minute short is all they are allowed and no actors or anyone having anything to do with the film industry is allowed to participate. You can't make a true film of 15 minutes other than what they call short-shorts that you might see at Canne or other film festivals that are used to draw interest to the person, people or businesses that produced them. Paramount has thus created a monopoly, akin to the old Bell Telephone company and their rules should be voided. I will never go see a Paramount Trek film again. The last one was utter trash.
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Is that the same Klingon Covert Operations Manual which consisted largely of photocopied parts of (licensed by Paramount) FASA Star Trek RPG sourcebook material? And the licensed Star Fleet Medical Reference Manual? This manual which Paramount blocked you from selling as per your own admission?

I guess you thought you had the right to make money from other people's stuff just like Alec Peters did.
 
keel said:
Back in the '70's, before fan-based films, before Paramount Trek films, fans were producing all kinds of written material, artistic material, visual material, audio material and Paramount cracked down on NONE of it...
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Cracked down on NONE of it? Then how did the editors of fanzine Dreadnought Explorations get a c&d from Paramount lawyers in 1977, forcing them to abandon their ‘zine mid-storyline?
 
Part of me wishes LFIM would finally step off the deep end and do something so stupid as to get his ass behind bars (or at least under an IRS microscope). He's become a cancer.
 
keel said:
NONE of the fan-based production groups make money off the fans from their films. The films are free to view by the public. They are funded by donations from individuals, businesses and fans of all types and those who work on the films do so of their own free will and time. Back in the '70's, before fan-based films, before Paramount Trek films, fans were producing all kinds of written material, artistic material, visual material, audio material and Paramount cracked down on NONE of it, even tho a large percentage of the material was Kirk/Spock gay porn. Paramount cracked down on fan-based materials only when something became financially successful, such as my 'Klingon Covert Operations Manual' around 1990. I also produced the first Klingon text-font in 1984 and if I had charged for it, I've no doubt Paramount would have stopped that as well, since over 350,000 copies have been downloaded last I checked (10 years ago). It was ONLY with the Axanar film production that Paramount began cracking down on films, simply because they were using real actors, real directors, producers, construction crew, film crew, etc..... The TRUE fan-based Trek films have been left completely alone other than via Paramount's 'rules' dictate, which has devastated any ability by anyone to produce a film. A 15-minute short is all they are allowed and no actors or anyone having anything to do with the film industry is allowed to participate. You can't make a true film of 15 minutes other than what they call short-shorts that you might see at Canne or other film festivals that are used to draw interest to the person, people or businesses that produced them. Paramount has thus created a monopoly, akin to the old Bell Telephone company and their rules should be voided. I will never go see a Paramount Trek film again. The last one was utter trash.
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He got stopped because he was trying to build a for-porfit studio with money rasied from donors using Star Trek IP in the fundraiser. How is that such a difficult concept to understand?
 
keel said:
NONE of the fan-based production groups make money off the fans from their films. The films are free to view by the public. They are funded by donations from individuals, businesses and fans of all types and those who work on the films do so of their own free will and time. Back in the '70's, before fan-based films, before Paramount Trek films, fans were producing all kinds of written material, artistic material, visual material, audio material and Paramount cracked down on NONE of it, even tho a large percentage of the material was Kirk/Spock gay porn. Paramount cracked down on fan-based materials only when something became financially successful, such as my 'Klingon Covert Operations Manual' around 1990. I also produced the first Klingon text-font in 1984 and if I had charged for it, I've no doubt Paramount would have stopped that as well, since over 350,000 copies have been downloaded last I checked (10 years ago). It was ONLY with the Axanar film production that Paramount began cracking down on films, simply because they were using real actors, real directors, producers, construction crew, film crew, etc..... The TRUE fan-based Trek films have been left completely alone other than via Paramount's 'rules' dictate, which has devastated any ability by anyone to produce a film. A 15-minute short is all they are allowed and no actors or anyone having anything to do with the film industry is allowed to participate. You can't make a true film of 15 minutes other than what they call short-shorts that you might see at Canne or other film festivals that are used to draw interest to the person, people or businesses that produced them. Paramount has thus created a monopoly, akin to the old Bell Telephone company and their rules should be voided. I will never go see a Paramount Trek film again. The last one was utter trash.
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Two things....

NEW PHONE WHO DIS

And
Back under your bridge
TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
keel said:
NONE of the fan-based production groups make money off the fans from their films. The films are free to view by the public. They are funded by donations from individuals, businesses and fans of all types and those who work on the films do so of their own free will and time. Back in the '70's, before fan-based films, before Paramount Trek films, fans were producing all kinds of written material, artistic material, visual material, audio material and Paramount cracked down on NONE of it, even tho a large percentage of the material was Kirk/Spock gay porn. Paramount cracked down on fan-based materials only when something became financially successful, such as my 'Klingon Covert Operations Manual' around 1990. I also produced the first Klingon text-font in 1984 and if I had charged for it, I've no doubt Paramount would have stopped that as well, since over 350,000 copies have been downloaded last I checked (10 years ago). It was ONLY with the Axanar film production that Paramount began cracking down on films, simply because they were using real actors, real directors, producers, construction crew, film crew, etc..... The TRUE fan-based Trek films have been left completely alone other than via Paramount's 'rules' dictate, which has devastated any ability by anyone to produce a film. A 15-minute short is all they are allowed and no actors or anyone having anything to do with the film industry is allowed to participate. You can't make a true film of 15 minutes other than what they call short-shorts that you might see at Canne or other film festivals that are used to draw interest to the person, people or businesses that produced them. Paramount has thus created a monopoly, akin to the old Bell Telephone company and their rules should be voided. I will never go see a Paramount Trek film again. The last one was utter trash.
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It's a beautiful day in this Axanarhood,
A beautiful day for a ship this good.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?...

It's a mately ole day in this studio that could,
A matey day, you better be good.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?...
Won't you be my Matey?

Ahoy there Ensigns and Red Shits
This is Lord Garth. Are you ready for an exciting adventure?
Of course you are, but first I need you to go out to all your little friends an collect donations for my sushi fund.
Do you litke sushi?
Of course you do but first it's word of the day!
Today's word is INVERACITY, Can you say inveracity?
Of course you can, now get out there and bash all non believers!
 
dmac said:
It's a beautiful day in this Axanarhood,
A beautiful day for a ship this good.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?...

It's a mately ole day in this studio that could,
A matey day, you better be good.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?...
Won't you be my Matey?

Ahoy there Ensigns and Red Shits
This is Lord Garth. Are you ready for an exciting adventure?
Of course you are, but first I need you to go out to all your little friends an collect donations for my sushi fund.
Do you litke sushi?
Of course you do but first it's word of the day!
Today's word is INVERACITY, Can you say inveracity?
Of course you can, now get out there and bash all non believers!
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All of Mr. Garth's cardigans would be blue...
 
keel said:
It was ONLY with the Axanar film production that Paramount began cracking down on films, simply because they were using real actors, real directors, producers, construction crew, film crew, etc.....
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Is that you, Alec?

Axanar raised $1.4 million, and spent that money on everything except the actual movie and perks that were promised donors. That was why he was sued.
 
I haven't followed all the most recent twists and turns but this just popped into my Orville FB feed and it looks like it's been zapped but I got a screengrab of it first.

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Seems like Alec is still running his own personal reality-show and he thinks it's newsworthy to Orville fans. EDIT - it's still there, because apparently Alec is an admin of that FB group :(
 
mos6507 said:
I haven't followed all the most recent twists and turns but this just popped into my Orville FB feed and it looks like it's been zapped but I got a screengrab of it first.

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Seems like Alec is still running his own personal reality-show and he thinks it's newsworthy to Orville fans. EDIT - it's still there, because apparently Alec is an admin of that FB group :(
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He went batshit crazy over the weekend on Gabe Koerner on his Facebook page, Orville Page, Twitter, and Axanar Productions blog........A pretty large number of people unfollowed the pages and chastised LFIM for airing his personal dirty laundry on pages that were supposed to be about production updates and television shows. He actually went as far as to tweet FOX and Seth trying to get Gabe in trouble on his job........with no proof of anything. He's done some odd things before but he is truly acting unhinged. And still no script.
 
KennyB said:
He went batshit crazy over the weekend on Gabe Koerner on his Facebook page, Orville Page, Twitter, and Axanar Productions blog........A pretty large number of people unfollowed the pages and chastised LFIM for airing his personal dirty laundry on pages that were supposed to be about production updates and television shows. He actually went as far as to tweet FOX and Seth trying to get Gabe in trouble on his job........with no proof of anything. He's done some odd things before but he is truly acting unhinged. And still no script.
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He better be able to prove these accusations if he wants to level them against someone who works for Fox now.
 
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