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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Axanar's Hail Mary pass — that somehow CBS/Paramount didn't really own Star Trek — doesn't connect, after studio attorneys turned over chain of title documents to the defense. Also, peek behind the curtain at lawyers battling over the evidence each side needs to make its case.
"Also, based on public statements by defendant Peters, Grossman pushed back against Ranahan’s claim that no privilege log for the defense was required:
As for your assertion that there is nothing privileged that has been withheld by Alec Peters and Axanar, I am not sure that is correct as Alec has publicly stated that he has spoken with other attorneys other than you — both before and after you were retained. If you are demanding a privilege log, the defendants need to provide one as well."

Let history never forget the name... LFIM!
 
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Axanar's Hail Mary pass — that somehow CBS/Paramount didn't really own Star Trek — doesn't connect, after studio attorneys turned over chain of title documents to the defense. Also, peek behind the curtain at lawyers battling over the evidence each side needs to make its case.
That was a terrific read. I really enjoy the behind the scenes of the 'lawyers battling over the evidence each side needs to make its case.' Thanks ever so for this!
 
Its really beginning to look like C/P's insistence that Axanar is a professional effort is going to short-circuit a whole lot of the fan-film angle W&S have been pursuing. If the judge rules against W&S on matters relating to fan film discovery, it will be a big problem for Axanar.
 
Axanar's Hail Mary pass — that somehow CBS/Paramount didn't really own Star Trek — doesn't connect, after studio attorneys turned over chain of title documents to the defense. Also, peek behind the curtain at lawyers battling over the evidence each side needs to make its case.
"Also, based on public statements by defendant Peters, Grossman pushed back against Ranahan’s claim that no privilege log for the defense was required:
As for your assertion that there is nothing privileged that has been withheld by Alec Peters and Axanar, I am not sure that is correct as Alec has publicly stated that he has spoken with other attorneys other than you — both before and after you were retained. If you are demanding a privilege log, the defendants need to provide one as well."
To which I add to yours that my own thoughts (and posting) as far back as December 31st last year, back when I believed in this production & its producer so I was in full blown WTH are the Studios doing to them & how can I help them mode... that these words being attributed to the defendant ('we are not a fan film, we are an independent Trek feature film, if you want to see a fan film go watch theirs, ours is 'not' a fan film, ours is not like theirs, we. are. not. a. fan. film.) that I was reading in multiple places were going to be a problem. And if the production and producer were actually saying this stuff that they should 'stop immediately' because it could be used against them.

And as the world turns:

we are not a fan film --> circle back --> bite --> defendant
 
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To which I add to yours that my own thoughts (and posting) as far back as December 31st last year, back when I believed in this production & its producer so I was in full blown WTH are the Studios doing to them & how can I help them mode... that these words being attributed to the defendant ('we are not a fan film, we are an independent Trek feature film, if you want to see a fan film go watch theirs, ours is 'not' a fan film, ours is not like theirs, we. are. not. a. fan. film.) I was reading multiple places were going to be a problem. And if the production and defendant were actually saying this stuff that they should 'stop immediately' because it could be used against them.

And as the world turns:

we are not a fan film --> circle back --> bite --> defendant

Indeed. It will be very hard for W&S to convince a judge that Axanar is a fan film when the people involved with its production have spent years saying that it is not a fan film. That's the thing about reality: you can't just take back what you've said when it becomes inconvenient.
 
Indeed. It will be very hard for W&S to convince a judge that Axanar is a fan film when the people involved with its production have spent years saying that it is not a fan film. That's the thing about reality: you can't just take back what you've said when it becomes inconvenient.

And that lead to AP's ultimate failure... by stumbling on his way to collect as much cash (Hi, Indysolo!) as he could from donors (now victims) by telling them, how fully indepent and professional his endeavour would be.
He forgot the one thing, one should never forget: The internet NEVER forgets (Hi, web.archive.org!).

The Wayback machine slaps you in the face... eventually. Well that and the other incriminating emails and documents (and forum discussions) you can NOT undo.
 
Indeed. It will be very hard for W&S to convince a judge that Axanar is a fan film when the people involved with its production have spent years saying that it is not a fan film. That's the thing about reality: you can't just take back what you've said when it becomes inconvenient.
You can bend reality but you can't bend it infinitely.
 
This is how I interpreted these newest documents:

Ranahan: whine whine whine blah blah blah whine whine.
Grossman: *mic drop*

Seriously, Ranahan's filings tend to veer off into long-winded territory. Is that just a thing that defendants do, or is it Ranahan?

Nice work again, Carlos. :)
 
You can bend reality but you can't bend it infinitely.

Unless you're Alec Peters, where you are the one true god of your own reality, with your own rules, and it does exactly. what. you. want.

Unfortunately for Alec Peters, personal realities rarely have any effect on the actual reality.
 
This is how I interpreted these newest documents:

Ranahan: whine whine whine blah blah blah whine whine.
Grossman: *mic drop*

Seriously, Ranahan's filings tend to veer off into long-winded territory. Is that just a thing that defendants do, or is it Ranahan?

Nice work again, Carlos. :)
It is a tactic in defense maneuverings that I have noticed that is not at all unique to Ms. Ranahan. She will, if she's as good as at least I think she is, continue to use everything available in the Lawyer Tactics Toolbox to sway, fish for things that sway, wear down, etc., the opposing case to either win or mitigate consequences of losing her client's case. Actually, this tactic isn't even unique to defense maneuverings. Prosecutors and plaintiff lawerings have their own fair share of attorneys who employ similar. And depending on whose side one is on when such is happening it can be looked at as bs lawering... or really good lawering. :lol:
 
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Its really beginning to look like C/P's insistence that Axanar is a professional effort is going to short-circuit a whole lot of the fan-film angle W&S have been pursuing. If the judge rules against W&S on matters relating to fan film discovery, it will be a big problem for Axanar.

God, I hope they rule that Axanar is not and never was a "fan film", separating it from the rest of the pile, indirectly clearing the way for regular fan films to feel safe proceeding as before, and things can return to normal....
 
DON’T ASK DON’T TELL Despite his official ‘no refund’ policy, Axanar producer Alec Peters offers money back to complaining donors so long as they never talk about Axanar again. Meanwhile, donors’ perks finally start shipping, and Peters props up his favored blog by continuing his attack on AxaMonitor.
That's classic LFIM scam artistry right there. Deceiving his customers that want a refund in exchange for their personal information and trying to muzzle their 1st Amendment rights.

I hope someone gets their hands on that document sending notarized copies to the California Office of Consumer Affairs and the State Attorney General's Office. Oh, the fun they would have investigating LFIM. :biggrin:
 
I hope someone gets their hands on that document sending notarized copies to the California Office of Consumer Affairs and the State Attorney General's Office. Oh, the fun they would have investigating LFIM.
OMG... That gave me a flash vision of Peters demanding a chain of ownership in the state of California.
 
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