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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Was it perhaps that the studios filed against Alec individually as well as against Axanar Productions?
It's one lawsuit - but Alec Peters was served separately and named as an actual separate defendant to prevent him from using Coporation shield laws to avoid aspects of a Judgement against Axanar should the case go to trial and that be the result.
 
I finally found "Ares Studios" on Google Maps: 28757 Industry Drive, Valencia, CA 91355

It's the end of a five-segment row-building. OfficeSpace dot com lists it as 15,756 square feet, leased as of July 2015 at $7.08 per square-foot per year, or $111,552 per year, or $9,296 per month. Now, I'm not entirely sure if that 15,756 SqFt is just for the one segment or for the entire row, in which case the numbers would be one-fifth of what's listed.

I cannot find out who actually owns the building, but considering that it's not a stand-alone "warehouse", I doubt that anyone from the Axanar staff bought it to lease back to the "studio". Until now, I wasn't so sure about that ......
I think someone dug all that info up in the first 500 pages of this thread..............but I can't find the motivation to help you search. ;-)
 
I still am stuck on the whole, how does one manage to raise 1.3 million dollars and have none of it left. None left to send out donor rewards, none left to make a production they promised to spend the money on and none left to pay your CT guy for the work he did for you. Every time I think this whole mess can't get worse for Alec and his gang, he says something else dumb and pisses more people off. Which then plunges Axanar deeper in the hole. Honestly, I am glad I was a donor, the entertainment this entire fiasco has given me was well worth my 30 bucks far beyond their "fan film" production would have...
Without equivocation I do not support the management of the finances of any portion of this production.

However, in thinking about defendant's statement that there wasn't cash I remember that I have on occasion actually had sufficient monies to do something when asked to, or buy something I wanted, but having budgeted the monies I have... to go elsewhere... I have used the response that I don't have money to do it. Which is shorthand for I may have enough dollars to do it but they aren't free for me to spend them on anything else but what they are budgeted for.

The second thought I had was Mr. Bawden mentioning to Carlos in response to the query regarding the defendant saying this... that the defendant might not know anything about the monies at this time because of the hired outside accountant working to get the production's books straight. Which, in one interpretation I can think of, could indicate there being a current moratorium on production spending until the books are straight. Which could possibly? lead the defendant to say in a verbal shorthand (like I might myself) that there's no money to pay cash for the product being asked for.

I mean, I could see those scenarios. Now of course neither them might be what the defendant was saying at all. It's just that it doesn't make sense to me that alllll that money is gone, but could make sense to me that however much money is left could have a lock down on them for spending . Or might be not be in some kind of budget to be used for this additional purchase.

Or it might be the defendant crying lack of cash hoping to persuade Mr. McIntosh to take a different deal. This happens plenty in business bargainings.

Or the money might in fact all be gone.

It's just that there's not enough information for me, personally I mean, to conclude that the defendant's statement meant exactly the way it reads. It could, sure. Though it is just not logical in any way I can come up with, yet anyway, to think that allll that money is 'literally' gone.
 
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I still am stuck on the whole, how does one manage to raise 1.3 million dollars and have none of it left. None left to send out donor rewards, none left to make a production they promised to spend the money on and none left to pay your CT guy for the work he did for you....

He says that he has no money left. That, as with many other statements from him over the past months, may well be a big fat lie.
 
He says that he has no money left. That, as with many other statements from him over the past months, may well be a big fat lie.
You make a good point. I was just thinking about that myself. There are enough documented research supported times this has been done by the defendant in print. There are enough things on his website he has written and signed himself to support that. There are enough things we can hear his own voice saying on his podcast that supports that. And there are a couple of things on his video log he can be visually seen to say that supports that.

It is certainly a point that has a enough documented weight behind it to merit healthy consideration.
 
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DONOR FUNDS IN ESCROW? I've updated the AxaMonitor article to reflect claims by Alec Peters' surrogates in the I Stand With Axanar Facebook group that all donor funds are "indeed safe" in an escrow account. I've asked official spokesman Mike Bawden to confirm this, how much is in that account, and why the hell Peters is using admins on a Facebook fan group as his spokespeople instead of the two professional PR guys working on his behalf. Read more »
 
I keep wondering if Axanar hosted its email or books internally...



Terry says Alec retained the original lists that needed to be cleaned up, and to me that sounded legit - if there was no contract to turn over methods of cleaning up lists, or cleaned up lists, then its goodwill as far as I know to give that work to Axanar.

But what about anyone who signed up through Ares Digital? It would be ok I suppose to just flatfile download that info to Axanar, but did it happen? I would imaging Axanar being a client and beta tester hosted on the developing product they do not own. But agreements could change this.




How did the studio asset become business collateral which could be signed over by Alec? Only if Axanar Productions claimed ownership outright, exactly what the critics have been saying.



I keep wondering that. Somewhere I lost track of the current state of it. Was it "sold"? Did it remain property of Axanar Productions and get a set of "investment partners"? I thought they put that money back into the production budget. And its gone? And all the indiegogo? Surely rent and attorney fees couldn't have eaten all that up?

Is it funding the self-contratulatory-fallen-heros-epic-documentary?
I have been keeping track of this but haven't been able to get more than a "not that I'm aware of" out of Axanar spokesman Mike Bawden. I have asked him again to comment on it now that Alec is on the record offering ownership interests in the studio. I'll let you all know what I find out from him, as well as other avenues I'm exploring.
 
It looks like LFIM is setting himself up to play the victim (or at least try and make himself look a *bit* better when Terry releases the kraken.......from C/P v. Axanar)



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