I don't think that a crowdfunded project is under any obligation to refund the money if the project isn't completed.
There probably isn't much left to refund anyway.
No doubt that LFIM deserves a slapdown. I just hope this is where he gets it.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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There probably isn't much left to refund anyway.
No doubt that LFIM deserves a slapdown. I just hope this is where he gets it.
They were promised a certain story, they weren't promised HOW that story would be told.
He would be fulfilling his obligation if he were able to make it, even as a mockumentary.
They can be sued though for breach of contract if they don't deliver.
I don't know if that is a slam dunk.
They did, after all, put as a risk CBS shutting them down.
Have there been any suits against failed Kickstarter projects?
A complaint made through your state's attorney general might be more effective and expedient than a class action suit, if this Washington state case serves as an example:
Court orders restitution, fines in first-ever victory against a delayed Kickstarter
Can the good Judge use this ruling in his court even if not from his state?
The case can go forward and a settlement could be reached and/or a judgement rendered. Collections would be more difficult but not impossible - wages can be garnished, for example.
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Utterly disgusting write up
You should be ashamed of yourself - if I had you in range, I'd open up on you
*shakes head*
Your article is filled with errors and mistakes and i wonder how the hell you graduated from school
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Well, I read it, and this sums it up nicely:
So despite it getting critical reviews, and bringing in more money than almost every other Star Trek film made up to that point, you were befuddled why people liked it when you insist in your article that "many loyal fans" didn't. Then you praise Axanar with glowing terms, a film that hasn't even been completed, and is under fire because of the many transgressions made by Alec Peters.
In short, your poorly researched, poorly written article is dreck: Star dreck, if you will.
Well if you want exposure it's a good write up. It hits all the notes of the small things that are twisted into huge conterversies in fandom.
JJ Trek bashing is most of the article. Bashing AllAcess rounds out the ending and most discussion of Axanar is the basic Fan Films Good Ra Ra while ignoring all the things that Axanar did to distance themselves from the real fan films.
My favorite part was "Then it got started on its most ambitious project, Star Trek: Axanar" If they had ever gotten truely started on making Axanar and not caught up with podcasts, conventions, blogs, empire building and studio building they might have done what real fan films do....Making the damn film.
That is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. I detest JJtrek, but the slant of that article is so out of left field it's ridiculous.
Exactly why i said what I did... - Plus, one of the images is incorrectly labeled
What is it about JJTrek haters? "Sure they're hugely popular and everything but everybody hates them, it's a fact."
I think they get aroused by it
Not to change the subject but A.P. (at least at the start) had a lot of fan film people around him. Most people already in fan films know that there are certain guidelines, albeit rather grey they are rather risky to cross. It surprises me with some of the people that contributed to this venture and I have to wonder if they knew deep down it would end this way.
Really how would you "open up on me"? Hmm.
Tell me the factual errors and I will gladly research and correct as this article is NOT yet live on our homepage so I welcome constructive feedback to make it more accurate before it debuts.
Forget those other folks, Peters was one of the people trumpeting the CBS guidelines and how everyone had to stay inside of them! He was also all about his CBS connections. No wonder people felt comfortable working with him at the start.
That Kickstarter for the studio should have been a big red flag, however. That's the point where the Countdown to Court clock started ticking for me.
DMAC: I doubt anyone thought it would go this direction. I suspect that Alec Peters didn't plan to go down this road when he started out. I think that once he hit a half-million in donations, he realized he could do so much more than he ever dreamed of. Sadly, nobody was able or willing to tell him "That's not a good idea." Once he was told that, it was too late; he was well passed the point of no return.
I'll admit I was all for the project when I first heard of it. I just saw a video shot at a convention where he laid out the idea, and listed the backing he had. I'm sure if I saw that way back when, I would have opened up my checkbook. I've said it before more than once up-topic: even today, knowing all I do know, I would still love to see this film somehow.
I'll admit I was all for the project when I first heard of it. I just saw a video shot at a convention where he laid out the idea, and listed the backing he had. I'm sure if I saw that way back when, I would have opened up my checkbook. I've said it before more than once up-topic: even today, knowing all I do know, I would still love to see this film somehow.
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