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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Count Chocula couldn't possibly be Spock's cousin because I happen to know for a fact Spock doesn't have a cousin!

Neil
Spock is his own cousin.

[NERD]SAREK: My apologies, visitor. I regret you were witness to that unfortunate display of emotion on the part of my son.
SPOCK: In the family, all is silence. No more will be said of it. Live long and prosper, Sarek of Vulcan.
SAREK: Peace and long life. You are of my family?
SPOCK: My name is Selek, an humble cousin descended of T'Pel and Sasak. I am journeying to the family shrine to honour our gods. [/NERD]
 
A Hollywood and a law question.

1. If rights are aquired to produce or publish something, can those rights be recinded?
2. @jespah, I know I asked this either here or in one of the Stands groups - but if AP wanted to make a defense that W&S knew wouldn't fly, at what point are they ethically bound to say no and step away?
 
1. If rights are aquired to produce or publish something, can those rights be recinded?

The rights assignment and/or license would be a contract issue, wouldn't it? So it would depend entirely on what's in the contract.

Not a lawyer, YMMV. :)
 
A Hollywood and a law question.

1. If rights are aquired to produce or publish something, can those rights be recinded?
2. @jespah, I know I asked this either here or in one of the Stands groups - but if AP wanted to make a defense that W&S knew wouldn't fly, at what point are they ethically bound to say no and step away?
1. Depends on how the contract reads. There are typically termination clauses in such contracts. EDIT: I've done my share of these.
 
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Spock is his own cousin.

[NERD]SAREK: My apologies, visitor. I regret you were witness to that unfortunate display of emotion on the part of my son.
SPOCK: In the family, all is silence. No more will be said of it. Live long and prosper, Sarek of Vulcan.
SAREK: Peace and long life. You are of my family?
SPOCK: My name is Selek, an humble cousin descended of T'Pel and Sasak. I am journeying to the family shrine to honour our gods. [/NERD]
That was my favorite animated epsode: "Yesteryear"! I have an animation cel from that one.
 
Because it's such a small amount that it's not worth the time, or because there isn't any money left?

Just curious. ;)

I have no real knowledge of it, but my impression has always been that it takes only a few people, and a law firm that thinks it is worth pursuing, to bring a class action lawsuit; and to approach the attorney general, not even a law firm. I am not sure how relevant it is that many people would write it off, if a few get riled up. Seems like I receive class action settlement notifications for prior purchases in the computer/telecom domain about every other month.
 
Oh, thanks. And I'm not averse to them helping out a pal. It's just, licensing is a requirement they were clearly aware of.

PS -
http://www.axanarproductions.com/our-shiny-new-faq/
Interesting. That FAQ is dated 4/2/16 (Today); and from that FAQ:
How much money is still left from the crowdfunding campaign?
The amount of money left over from last year’s crowdfunding changes every month due to the “burn rate” of maintaining the studio while Axanar Productions works through the details of the lawsuit with CBS and Paramount....
^^^^
I thought they were claiming in court (and in public) that it was just a Warehouse; and not a 'Studio'. I guess the Axanar PR guy missed that memo.:wtf::rommie:
 
Interesting. That FAQ is dated 4/2/16 (Today); and from that FAQ:

How much money is still left from the crowdfunding campaign?
The amount of money left over from last year’s crowdfunding changes every month due to the “burn rate” of maintaining the studio while Axanar Productions works through the details of the lawsuit with CBS and Paramount....

Yes, but How much money is still left from the crowdfunding campaign? :crazy:

[did they give a straight answer?]

also, I think they can't hear the word "law". the above statement only makes sense if they are at the tailor: .. works through the details of the suit...
 
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Shiny and new! Oh, what's this? As this group has brought forth, he billed himself as "the Star Trek Archivist." Here's the confirmation it was another bogus credential.
"Which, considering Alec Peters’ history of volunteering for CBS on the CBS Star Trek Archive"

Yes, but How much money is still left from the crowdfunding campaign? :crazy:
[did they give a straight answer?]
also, I think they can't hear the word "law". the above statement only makes sense if they are at the tailor: .. works through the details of the suit...
:beer:

Why would there be any money at all left if there was a chance someone would take it away from Alec? Silly rabbit. :guffaw:

Axanar is working out the details with CBS like nails are meeting with the hammer.
 
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New interview with Alec Peters:

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Now this video will silence the critics! :biggrin:

Great Interview, I think that this YouTube channel deserves a lot more likes and subscribers then it currently receives.

If you don’t watch the full interview be sure to watch the last 70 seconds (32:37+), it’s the best bit.

Hopefully, Part two will be out soon.
 
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New interview with Alec Peters:

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Now this video will silence the critics! :biggrin:

If you don’t watch the full interview be sure to watch the last 70 seconds (32:37+), it’s the best bit.

Hopefully, Part two will be out soon.
Yeah Alec definitely controlled the interview. Would have loved to see Matthew press him harder on the Lucasfilm rules he held up as a model...........since Axanar and Prelude would have both failed to pass their guidelines. The best part is the previews for part 2.......where he demands to "phone a friend" aka Mike the PR guy.
 
New interview with Alec Peters:

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Now this video will silence the critics! :biggrin:

Great Interview, I think that this YouTube channel deserves a lot more likes and subscribers then it currently receives.

If you don’t watch the full interview be sure to watch the last 70 seconds (32:37+), it’s the best bit.

Hopefully, Part two will be out soon.
Hey, we got to hear a tease of that fancy phone system in action. :techman:
 
A Hollywood and a law question.

1. If rights are aquired to produce or publish something, can those rights be recinded?
2. @jespah, I know I asked this either here or in one of the Stands groups - but if AP wanted to make a defense that W&S knew wouldn't fly, at what point are they ethically bound to say no and step away?

1. Absolutely. An IP holder would be a dolt if s/he were to hand over rights in perpetuity unless they were sold or otherwise contracted for. For example, my publisher holds any number of rights in my novel. But per our contract, those rights will revert back to me after a while (3 years, IIRC) and then I am free to shop it around to another publisher or self-pub it if I think another edition or an improved edition will sell.

2. Attorneys are asked all the time to prepare wacky defenses. Sometimes those can fly or they can start to chip away at what seems to be granite-hard precedent. The attorneys begin to get into ethical trouble if they are lied to AND they repeat that lie AND they know it is a lie as a part of the defense.

For example, let's say I borrowed your car without permission and I went joyriding. I come back and leave it in your garage. But you notice there's less gas in the tank and there's a scratch on the fender. If I say I didn't do it, and I maintain that throughout my defense with my attorney, they are okay although I am probably committing perjury if I say this under oath. Things change if I tell my lawyer, "I did it, but you're going to tell them I didn't." My lawyer should (a) counsel me not to do this, (b) refuse to be complicit, (c ) offer an alternative defense whereby neither of us have to lie (say, a plea agreement, which isn't really a defense per se, but is probably best for me anyway), and (d) threaten to quit if I want to go ahead.

Sometimes lawyers get this stuff sprung on them in the middle of trial, when they really can't ethically quit, so they are kind of between a rock and a hard place. Then, suddenly, their Aunt Mary is sick and they have to go and attend to her, and/or they sidebar with the judge and just heavily hint, I have to say this but I don't really mean it. It's the passive-aggressive aspect of the law, at its finest.

For more on ethical dilemmas, I was given this terrific book by my cousin Joel (also a lawyer) when I started law school. It is written in very approachable language and it's not too expensive (I don't believe it's in ebook form). It's a small hardcover in case anyone wants to read about lawyers and ethics. I cannot recommend it enough and, no, I don't have any commercial interest in its sales. If a sale through an Amazon link helps TrekBBS, then obviously I am all for that.
 
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It greatly disturbs me that they need / want more money >_> Raising over a million dollars is just part of what created this problem for them in the first place. Are they incapable of learning from their mistakes? I understand wanting to make something of quality but enough is enough man... It's just money money money with them. I suppose the only good thing about this is that they'll never raise that kind of money again. I highly doubt as many people would donate to them compared to before. I know I won't again.
 
A Hollywood and a law question.

1. If rights are aquired to produce or publish something, can those rights be recinded?
Yes, IIRC Marvel did that with one of the movie licences, maybe Daredevil?!?
They got the rights back before they lapsed/could be extended.
 
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