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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Have you looked at his IMDB page? He'll make it work!

Neil

Well that would explain the glory holes punched into the green screen! ;)
 
For the '3rd party' investors this can be a risky endeavor. Lets look at the basic math. You have to pay $12500 a month in rent, you also have electric, water/sewer, telco/Internet, insurance, business taxes, maintence/upkeep, and at least one employee to manage, So lets say its 17k a month you owe in total. Now you have to rent your studio out for the average cost of 1k a day. This is in the LA area that has many studios to rent so the competition is high. You would need to guarantee you have the studio rented out 17 out of the 30/31 days in a month just to break even . Seem like a risky venture, unless your sure you will have the clientele year round to make it work.

This isn't a reasonable business plan - it's Enablement writ large.
It's obvious that the "private" group don't see some inherent value in the studio and/or the "improvements" to the studio. They are bailing out Alec Peters and hoping that it allows him to pursue his vision or some such nonsense.
 
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Yes indeed, Alec identifies with the villain in the unofficial James Bond film. That's oddly appropriate.

Neil
Personally, I think the link below shows what Mr. Peters looks like pitching this 'private investor' Ares Studio 'deal' (to any potential investor with more than one brain cell that is):
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Slippin' Jimmy with a law degree is like a monkey with a machine gun.

Frankly, these grade-school level shenanigans of his are not going to affect the ultimate result of all this. Alec Peters' vastly flawed understanding of the law coupled with his untethered and shameless, arrogant ego are going to spell doom for him here.

There is NO WAY CBS/Paramount or Loeb & Loeb aren't seeing right through this ploy, and there's no way they're going to sit idly by while Peters weasels his way out of yet another mess he's made or the accountability of owning up to these damages.

Even if Peters is removed from the equation re: renting the warehouse, CBS is still going to win this case, still going to shut Axanar down, and still going to bleed Peters for every ill-gotten penny he has to his name.

He may have a contingent of very vocal Axanerds/Axanards/Acoyltes praising his name, but that means precisely dick in a court of law. This guy has repeatedly contradicted himself, broken the law, misspent money donated in good faith, and is now trying to scam his way out of accountability for his misdeeds taking advantage of fandom.

If anything, Peters' child-like approach to all this has been entertaining, but more revelatory of just how his inept brain functions. He's like Ben Linus on LOST ... he never matured, really, past middle school and he is simply locked in to this repeated pattern of behavior and method of dealing with the world around him.

We excoriate him. CBS & Paramount are going to DESTROY this guy, and rightfully so.
 
This isn't a reasonable business plan - it's Enablement writ large.
It's obvious that the "private" group don't see some inherent value in the studio and/or the "improvements" to the studio. They are bailing out Alec Peters and hoping that it allows him to pursue his vision or some such nonsense.

I vote for it being a hail mary to try to keep the books and correspondence from being discovered, by making an immediate settlement. Part of a further threat of defense by tank trap rings as attorneys do. And as effective as those would be against shuttlecraft.

I still have no idea what other motivation an "investor" would have if they could not do Trek. Maybe they are all being offered crew roles in the PewPewVerse should it somehow succeed in spawning from prime.
 
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I think Burnett may have leaked their plans for this a while back, when he posted on Facebook or Twitter that donors could soon become "investors."

Someone around here surely has that screenshot.
 
For the '3rd party' investors this can be a risky endeavor. Lets look at the basic math. You have to pay $12500 a month in rent, you also have electric, water/sewer, telco/Internet, insurance, business taxes, maintence/upkeep, and at least one employee to manage, So lets say its 17k a month you owe in total. Now you have to rent your studio out for the average cost of 1k a day. This is in the LA area that has many studios to rent so the competition is high. You would need to guarantee you have the studio rented out 17 out of the 30/31 days in a month just to break even . Seem like a risky venture, unless your sure you will have the clientele year round to make it work.

This isn't a reasonable business plan - it's Enablement writ large.
It's obvious that the "private" group don't see some inherent value in the studio and/or the "improvements" to the studio. They are bailing out Alec Peters and hoping that it allows him to pursue his vision or some such nonsense.

What I have seen (and I am on the road and trying not to miss the nuances here. My apologies if I am missing something glaring. WiFi out here is sub-optimal) is that this, on its face, is a rather poor investment for the double secret investment team.

Forget everything else.

They are buying out a leasehold, it seems, creating a sublessee arrangement (which the landlord may or may not condone), and they may or may not be able to get any ownership interest in the fixtures and capital improvements, such as they are. Plus, since the current tenants need to go somewhere, the hush-hush investors either:
  • Kick out the current tenants and take a chance to find a comparable steady flow of income, either temp rentals for film making or offices or the like or
  • Let the current tenants hang around rent-free, thereby assuming all of the risk (including the requirement to pay the landlord on time) and little to none of the reward or
  • Let the current tenants hang around at lower rents or with a longer time to pay said rents. Which is essentially an interest-free or low-interest loan. Again, the sub rosa investment group assumes all of the risk and virtually none of the benefits.
Not for nothing, folks, but why the hell would anyone pay $450k for the privilege of what, on its face (hey, maybe I'm wrong! Show me the facts and I'm happy to admit it. I want to learn) looks like a craptastic bargain.

Really bad bargains such as this are not sales. They are gifts. And, as @Jedi_Master put it so eloquently, they smell a helluva lot like enablement.
 
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