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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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As you basing that on this?

18. CBS owns United States copyrights in the Star Trek Television Series​
and Paramount owns the United States copyrights in the Star Trek Motion Pictures.
Plaintiffs have duly registered copyrights in and to the Star Trek Television Series
and Star Trek Motion Pictures with the United States Copyright Office and have
complied with all applicable statutory registration and renewal requirements.​
Because to my eye that merely says who owns the U.S. copyrights to the existing works, not what the overall ownership of the I.P. is. Perhaps that is implied.

It's implied.
 
It probably would be better to restrict any ability to delete posts to be under admin control. Allowing someone to seed a discussion, and then if the direction it goes is not to their liking, wipe the entire thread or response chain, is probably too much authority for a non-admin to have. For the cases where it is an erroneous initial post, the usual might be to ask an admin to clean it up. at least that is what I have seen various places.

Yeah, I wish Facebook would let us do that, but it won't. The OP can still delete their post.
 
I am one of the admins over at the Exeter group. The member who started that thread deleted their post, which deleted the chain of messages that followed. We don't censor at the Exeter page, unless it is someone spamming, or being abusive to other members. People have the right to express themselves at our group page without fear of censorship.

Thanks for taking the time to clarify this point, @Captain Atkin . Admittedly, in the heat of the moment I was quite confused about what was happening there, especially with the person I was debating with continuing to antagonize me there. I appreciate the explanation. Gratitude.
 
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I love how Peters is bragging about having 96 people who want to see him in London, I could probably find twice than many people who don't.

I'll bet I could get twice as many people to want to see YOU in London. It's like bragging that your mother liked your artwork so much she put it on the fridge.

I think Cawley and the crew of STNV are quite safe, as is the crew of STC as well.
Not necessarily. As discussed earlier in this thread, Alec appeared as Garth in several of Cawley's films. In addition, the amended suit specifically mentions the footage that was shot in the fall of 2015 at Retro Film Studios, LLC and with the use of RFS producers, crew, actors, electricity, etc - all of which could be considered contributing to copyright infringements. (RFS is not mentioned specifically, just the additional shot footage and that CBS has to do discovery regarding it.)

But there's no way Cawley wouldn't be sitting on CBS's side of the courtroom instantly. He's already there.
 
I think there's probably something to the theory that Lin isn't entirely acquainted with all the facts surrounding what's going on with Peters and Axanar.

No one is reading more into the Tweet however than Alec Peters, and in true Alec Peters fashion, he's milking it while he can.

Has Burnett commented on it yet?
 
No one is reading more into the Tweet however than Alec Peters, and in true Alec Peters fashion, he's milking it while he can.

A little fuse is lit. The MSNBC article is above the threshold for spinning off to rebloggings and might well get picked up by other major press since one of them reported it, that's the nature of the beast now. And there AP is, getting quoted anew wiith his protests of just being a fan film. Surprised he didn't announce they've signed Steve Buscemi.
 
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They can argue until their faces fall off, but there's no way AP (Axanar Productions = Alec Peters) wins a copyright case.

No way. No freaking way.

It's documented in all kinds of legal paperwork that CBS and Paramount, traceable all the way back to Desilu and Roddenberry's Norway Productions. The property has been in use constantly and consistently for ... wait for it ... 50 years. Not just onscreen, but in print and in models and games and other media.

If AP and his buds had kept their bigass mouths shut they might have got away with it. But as we all know, Lord Alex can't do it. He's an attention whore, always looking to put himself in the center of attention.

That will be his downfall. I hope it is.
 
Do not sully the good name of Steve Buscemi! ;)
I listened to the podcast this morning, and I think I know how you will answer this question.

If you were the judge in this case, and based strictly on copyright, how would you decide? Just based on the complaint, without any testimony or argument?

That's a big question, but it's what we all want to know. :)

Other legal eagles are free to weigh in here.

But just the facts, ma'am.
 
Peters' goal so far seems to be to paint this as a "David & Goliath" situation (an analogy he used on Day 1) and create the illusion that fans will be so outraged at the studios' attempts to shut down a fan-film that they'll lose money at the box office and get so much bad PR that it will hurt their bottom line.

My question is this:

Does he think that this tactic will work, and the studios will drop the suit? Or is he simply trying to create a scenario whereby when he inevitably loses, he can still look like the good guy?

PS: it's interesting to see him quoted about his love for the F&F films and excitement for the upcoming "Beyond" considering his public disdain for what Paramount has done with the new films, and the Axanar camp's general hatred of the Beyond trailer. I seem to recall that they tried to tell everyone-- in defense of the suit-- that the trailer was universally hated, while Axanar was beloved...
 
I listened to the podcast this morning, and I think I know how you will answer this question.

If you were the judge in this case, and based strictly on copyright, how would you decide? Just based on the complaint, without any testimony or argument?

That's a big question, but it's what we all want to know. :)

Other legal eagles are free to weigh in here.

But just the facts, ma'am.
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I'm curious about one thing...

Peters plans to show off Axanar at the next big Con, but said he "can't be there officially". How is he going to actually be there and can CBS and Paramount get an injunction against him to stop the showing of Axanar? Could they get a court order to stop all Cons showing or associating with Axanar Productions?
 
I'm curious about one thing...

Peters plans to show off Axanar at the next big Con, but said he "can't be there officially". How is he going to actually be there and can CBS and Paramount get an injunction against him to stop the showing of Axanar? Could they get a court order to stop all Cons showing or associating with Axanar Productions?
If he actually said he "can't be there offficially" he might not show up for a screening. If he's not physically there, can he be held responsible? I think yes, but he probably thinks no.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, there's no way he won't be there. His ego is too big.
 
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