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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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You need to be better than him. His put downs are wrong of course, but it's even worse to make fun of someone for their physical appearance. Opinions can (though rarely on the internet) change.

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That started with me and one of the Downfall videos. I didn't call Terry "fat" rather I called one of the Nazi Generals who asked to stay "Terry" and called the portly general (Buchdorf?) "Fat Terry".
 
I'm sorry if I missed any questions - the amending of the complaint - it could be any number of things but Job One is to address what came up in the Motion to Dismiss. There was a call for specificity and another for ownership details. I imagine both will be addressed. They may or may not address the incompleteness of the film - certainly there are constituent elements of the film which are complete and more or less set in stone even if the script isn't, e. g. costumes, makeup, hair styling in the Vulcan scene, sets, special effects, etc.

None of this even gets into coffee and models. If those become a part of the case, then we will probably see at least some of the Doe defendants named and probably also the coffee company itself.
 
Refresh my memory here. Hasn't RMB stated that the most recent iteration of the script (the script that was said to be "locked") has been sent to agencies in Hollywood?

If so, then isn't it possible, even likely, that CBS/Paramount has a copy of the script?

In which case, as part of the amended complaint, couldn't CBS/P drop an annotated version of the script, pointing out every single copyright infringement? Since the Axanar argument is that there hasn't been any infringement yet, because the film hasn't been made, wouldn't it benefit CBS/P to show how Axanar intended to infringe?

Wouldn't that be fun? :)
 
some of the Doe defendants named and probably also the coffee company itself.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the coffee steer clear of using any distinct CBS property? No "Star Trek" listed or mentions of pre-existing characters?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the coffee steer clear of using any distinct CBS property? No "Star Trek" listed or mentions of pre-existing characters?

There was "Andorian Ice", one bag had a picture of an obvious Klingon vessel (D-6 is listed on the bag), another bag has the Klingon High Council straight from TNG with the Klingon emblem on it.
 
There was "Andorian Ice", one bag had a picture of an obvious Klingon vessel (D-6 is listed on the bag), another bag has the Klingon High Council straight from TNG with the Klingon emblem on it.
The only way it could've been worse is if they had called the Klingon brew, "Raktajino." Really wonder how the Axanar people missed that one, come to think of it. They couldn't have thought that went too far, could've they?
 
I won't pretend to know the legal difference, but aren't Axanar/Andorian/etc trademarked rather than copyrighted?
 
You can use them for both. The difference is that with copyright, they'd be used as evidence to support an argument. With trademark, they'd be the actual matter.
 
I won't pretend to know the legal difference, but aren't Axanar/Andorian/etc trademarked rather than copyrighted?

Trademarks are a matter of public record. If anyone is curious about which elements of Star Trek are trademarked and for what purpose then one can run a search. (Link)
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the coffee steer clear of using any distinct CBS property? No "Star Trek" listed or mentions of pre-existing characters?
You mean like the coffee bags with pictures of:

- Richard hatch in full Klingon makeup (and in said headshot was part of a Klingon costume that looked like something the Klingon character 'General Chang' wore in the film Star Trek VI:The Undiscovered Country.)

- The bag with a picture of a Klingon D-6 Battlecruiser; that to the casual person could easily be mistaken for a classic D-7 (IE brand dilution/confusion)

- The bag with a picture of the Klingon 'Great Hall' building that looks like it was practically lifted from a shot (matte-painting) from the TNG episode 'Sins of the Father' and/or 'Reunion'?

Yep, the folks at Axanar Coffee didn't use anything recognizable as being associated with 'Star Trek' - oh, wait...:D;)
 
Yes, but since the names aren't in alphabetical order as one might expect, I thought maybe Paramount was the primary and CBS the secondary.

Peters briefly worked for CBS. He barters CBS props. They know him well. They have a dog in this fight. And I believe the Vegas meeting was CBS-only.
 
in said headshot was part of a Klingon costume that looked like something the Klingon character 'General Chang' wore in the film Star Trek VI:The Undiscovered Country.
I believe it was confirmed at some point along this crazy ride that it was in fact one of the Chang uniforms from ST:VI. One of Alec's acquisitions, if I recall...
 
That's why I mentioned the "exclusive" part, exclusive license holders can sue if the license gives them enforcement rights, and I'd assume that Paramount's license to make Star Trek films is exclusive. Usually in such cases the licensee would have to have to indemnify the licensor for any potential liability incurred as a result of bringing suit, as well as pick up the cost of the licensor's expenses from providing any assistance required/requested, since the main reason a licensor usually does not want to enforce infringement is the cost isn't worth it to them.

Still incorrect.
 
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