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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Yup, Paramount and CBS are in it for the long haul. I imagine they are going to sue Alec Peters for more than just the $1.3 million he made from his donations and make him really pay from his pocket too. Alec Peters is threatening their IP, trying to set the stage for anybody to walk all over P/C. They should not settle on a compromise at this point, they should make an example out of Peters from trying to steal their business away. It looks like it's time for P/C's lawyers to earn their money, they got alot of homework to do. They will have to prepare a count of how many infringing elements they think have been made. I'm sure it will be a long list to prepare. I look forward to finding out all the things they view as infringing and then count the total cost, that is when things will really get interesting. The longer the list the more money Peters stands to lose.
 
Looks like Alec is getting ready to learn his lines... from an incomplete script. You know, the way all professional Hollywood actors do.

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Someone also ought to tell the dipshit it's actually principal photography.

Principles are something that Alec clearly neither possesses or understands.
 
We need to invent a new internet law.

"As an online Star Trek discussion grows longer, the probability of someone ranting about Dennis approaches.'

 
However, Carlos, I have to work with the definition that Ranahan has asked us to work with, to help understand why she is using the term. See Footnote 6 on page 4 of the main breakdown in the motion Ranahan filed. She provides not only a link to the definition of "mockumentary" she is using, but also defines it in the footnote as "a movie or television show depicting fictional events but presented as a documentary."

Sorry, I like to go with intent of what is being said, especially with colloquialisms, and appreciate when someone (especially a lawyer) specifically defines what that intent is, as was done in this footnote. Nothing in her footnote seems to even suggest she is calling "Prelude" a parody, and that she is using "mockumentary" as a descriptor exactly for what I was saying — the story device of making something look like a documentary, when it's actually a documentary of fiction.
To be absolutely clear on her intent, the choice of the term mockumentary by Ranahan to describe the docufictional work Prelude to Axanar was aimed directly at you and people like you (reporters) to help Axanar/Peters' case in the court of public opinion. Most quotes and excerpts from the filing will not include her additional footnote clarifying her definition of the term, leaving the public to use the more standard definition which includes parody, something protected under fair use. The actual intent is for reporters to help link what they were doing with the Star Trek IP to fair use in the publics mind.

My father was a lawyer and a law professor, and I'm sure he'd have given Ranahan very high marks for her use of this one term in that filing.

If I were her, the other thing I'd do to help their case in the court of public opinion would be to either superglue boxing gloves on Peters' hands or file a gag order against Peters on any information regarding this case.
 
We need to invent a new internet law.

"As an online Star Trek discussion grows longer, the probability of someone ranting about Dennis approaches.'

Well, lets see, if I'm not mistaken Dennis Bailey has actual credit for two filmed TNG scripts; worked on the fan script for "The Tessaurian Intersection"; and is working on an original project atm.

Mr. peters has done a 21 minute featurette - and it's 'claim to fame' ISN'T his work on that script nor his screentime as 'Garth' in it - but more the excellent visual effects work of Tobias Richter. Mr. Peters has also done a 3 minute scene for 'Axanar'; and a second as yet unreleased featurette that was filmed on the 'Phase II/New Voyages' set...

Gee, comparing to two, it seems Mr. Bailey has 'made more' than Mr. Peters (unless the screencaped post above was referring to physical items like patches, T-Shirts and Coffee.:shrug:
 
We need to invent a new internet law.

"As an online Star Trek discussion grows longer, the probability of someone ranting about Dennis approaches.'

I'm sure Dennis has TWO more officially sectioned Trek credits than a guy who can't even come up with an original screen name..........:brickwall:
 
Yup, Paramount and CBS are in it for the long haul. I imagine they are going to sue Alec Peters for more than just the $1.3 million he made from his donations and make him really pay from his pocket too. Alec Peters is threatening their IP, trying to set the stage for anybody to walk all over P/C. They should not settle on a compromise at this point, they should make an example out of Peters from trying to steal their business away. It looks like it's time for P/C's lawyers to earn their money, they got alot of homework to do. They will have to prepare a count of how many infringing elements they think have been made. I'm sure it will be a long list to prepare. I look forward to finding out all the things they view as infringing and then count the total cost, that is when things will really get interesting. The longer the list the more money Peters stands to lose.
Call me crazy, but I think the initial tally of infringements was done a long time ago, before the suit was filed. Probably with photos, since that group has been trying to hang themselves since day one. Keeping up with new stuff since the suit was filed should have been a piece of cake--AP & Co. just keep handing it to them.
 
I wish he would issue a remissal to Axanar, where he would state from the bench, "I was remiss in not choosing to give you people a swift kick in the ass sooner."

I'd be alright with that.

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If ever I thought Alec Peters had even a shred of decency or integrity, it has been completely evaporated. The man is a scumbag and a psychopath, as clearly evidenced by that entire chain of comments.

I'd also toss in 'sociopath' and 'narcissist'............
 
After board member "Loken" (Alec Peters) was given the boot from TrekBBS back in May. 2014, a board member "Red Omega" surfaced here with similar writing style and similar agenda to "Loken." However, it was a different IP address.

Several months later, we ran s new IP address check on "Red Omega." He had, at some point, begun using the same IP address as "Loken" had been using. So "Red Omega" was given the boot, too, from TrekBBS in October of 2015.

I can't speak informedly about other sites, but for TrekBBS, "Loken" and "Red Omega" were both Alec Peters.
 
Note to self: never read the comments section.

Still reading the motion and its adjunct documentation and citations. There's already parts of one draft blog post. This may turn into two or three simply because everything is long and I am trying to include images for each of the pages, so people can read for themselves if they don't like my interpretations and summaries.

Plus ... school.

Again, thanks for waiting. It's interesting to read this stuff. So far the impression I have is of a fact pattern solely cobbled together from the defense's POV, but I caution everyone I have not finished reading. But that's what I'm getting so far.

Okay, back to HTML and CSS.
 
Did Mr. James Cawley know about this stuff before filming that vignette and getting involved with Axanar Productions? It looks like it doesn't matter because the two are still "friends" on Facebook even after Alec Peters threw a bucket of spits in his face in that 1701news.com article.

After board member "Loken" (Alec Peters) was given the boot from TrekBBS back in May. 2014, a board member "Red Omega" surfaced here with similar writing style and similar agenda to "Loken." However, it was a different IP address.

Several months later, we ran s new IP address check on "Red Omega." He had, at some point, begun using the same IP address as "Loken" had been using. So "Red Omega" was given the boot, too, from TrekBBS in October of 2015.

I can't speak informedly about other sites, but for TrekBBS, "Loken" and "Red Omega" were both Alec Peters.
 
Call me crazy, but I think the initial tally of infringements was done a long time ago, before the suit was filed. Probably with photos, since that group has been trying to hang themselves since day one. Keeping up with new stuff since the suit was filed should have been a piece of cake--AP & Co. just keep handing it to them.
As stated earlier, I don't think we are (legally) interested in the number of infringements; I think we are interested in a tally of the number of CBS/Paramount Star Trek Works that were infringed. (I.e., Star Trek IV + Star Trek: Enterprise + Star Trek:The Original Series = 3 infringements.)
 
As stated earlier, I don't think we are (legally) interested in the number of infringements; I think we are interested in a tally of the number of CBS/Paramount Star Trek Works that were infringed. (I.e., Star Trek IV + Star Trek: Enterprise + Star Trek:The Original Series = 3 infringements.)
Not sure what you mean. I'm saying that if W&S are trying to stall by asking for specific Axanar infringements in the massive Trek universe, I'm betting L&L has a few file boxes full of examples ready to throw back at them. "You want examples? We got examples."

I'm talking Alice's Restaurant style examples, i.e. " ... color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one."
 
Wow, just skimmed through the comments on THR.
Good to see the Talifans/AP are keeping doxxing alive and well.
 
I see alot on THR about how "wages aren't profit." If I make a company, and use the money it generates to pay myself a salary, I can't shield myself from taking money out of the company I own. It's not about profit but BENEFIT. Peters benefited from money raised off Star Trek. Only CBS/Paramount, or one of their license holders can do that.
 
on THR, I am jakewoodblues. I had no idea I was sparring with Alec. Yet, it doesn't surprise me, as he was awfully defensive about a salary wasn't profit. But oddly, he never addressed my concerns about the fact that he was not hired by the only people that have the legal right to hire him: CBS/Para.
I've been blooded............whee! :D
 
Putting it under a corporate umbrella would possibly save from being seized to satisfy a judgement? How would the court handle that asset considering it is co-owned?

I'm not sure, and at this point it would be moot, because even to this day (at least according to the Orange County Property Appraiser's Office), the property was never transferred over to the corporation.

So if Peters was indeed using that corporation to create a shield for the property ... he forgot to bring the shield to the battle field.
 
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